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Old 09-28-2021, 10:14 AM
 
Location: Northeast states
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Sorry but the ''because of Obama'' excuse is misplaced. Chicago was headlines decades before Barry became President. Early '90s Chicago, DC, NYC, LA were all headliners then; some cities like NYC and LA were able to get the murders down, others like Chicago and DC, not so much...better at times, but never to the NYC-LA low levels.

It's the numbers that dominate...600 in Chicago and 407 in Philly today type of headline...I think LA is below 300 and NYC remains historically low despite a large uptick since 2020.
Chicago didn’t improve the bad areas like NYC and LA. Wynwood in Miami was dangerous area now it tourist area and young people moving to their area it was different in 2006.
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Old 09-28-2021, 01:43 PM
 
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The 2020 FBI Uniform Crime Report has been released. I just got done looking at the data.

https://crime-data-explorer.app.cloud.gov/pages/home

2020 City Homicide Rates

1. St. Louis, MO 88.1
2. New Orleans, LA 51.0
3. Detroit, MI 49.7
4. Trenton, NJ 48.2
5. Baton Rouge, LA 46.5
6. Flint, MI 46.4
7. Memphis, TN 44.4
8. Cleveland, OH 42.2
9. Shreveport, LA 37.2
10. Portsmouth, VA 36.1
11. Kansas City, MO 35.2
12. Dayton, OH 32.8
13. Milwaukee, WI 32.4
14. North Charleston, SC 32.3
15. San Bernardino, CA 31.4
16. Cincinnati, OH 30.2
17. Chicago, IL 28.6
18. Richmond, VA 28.3
19. Washington DC 27.8
20. South Bend, IN 27.4
21. Little Rock, AR 24.8
22. Indianapolis, IN 24.3
23. Buffalo, NY 24.0
24. Akron, OH 23.8
25. Rochester, NY 23.4
26. Oakland, CA 23.3
27. Syracuse, NY 22.5
28. Vallejo, CA 22.1
29. South Fulton, GA 20.9
30. Rockford, IL 20.7
31. Norfolk, VA 20.2
32. Knoxville, TN 20.1
33. Fort Lauderdale, FL 20.1
34. Newark, NJ 19.8
35. Greensboro, NC 19.7
36. Toledo, OH 19.5
37. Columbus, OH 19.1
38. Hartford, CT 18.9
39. Compton, CA 18.8
40. Paterson, NJ 18.6
41. Kalamazoo, MI 18.3
42. Minneapolis, MN 18.2
43. Richmond, CA 18.0
44. Chattanooga, TN 17.9
44. Tulsa, OK 17.9
44. Hampton, VA 17.9
47. Stockton, CA 17.8
48. Wilmington, NC 17.5
49. Dallas, TX 17.3
50. Beaumont, TX 17.1

A few major cities are missing data like Philadelphia, Baltimore,
Louisville, Atlanta, etc.
Those rates are all higher than Chicago's, so you have the major news ones missing.
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Old 09-28-2021, 02:32 PM
 
Location: Bergen County, New Jersey
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Jesus. Is Trenton that bad?
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Old 09-28-2021, 07:55 PM
 
Location: California → Tennessee → Ohio
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https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sour...TS1BiDx3Nkzqma

Any data for Jackson can be found on WLBT & Clarion Ledger.
Wow, I didn't know Jackson, MS was that bad!

Here's the top 10 states for homicide for last year.

State - 2020 Homicide Rate

1. Louisiana 15.8
2. Missouri 11.8
3. Mississippi 10.6
3. Arkansas 10.6
5. South Carolina 10.5
6. Tennessee 9.6
6. Alabama 9.6
8. Illinois 9.1
8. Maryland 9.1
10. Georgia 8.8

This is nothing though compared to the year 1980 when the U.S. rate was at an all time high of 10.2.

State - 1980 Homicide Rate

1. Nevada 20.0
2. Texas 16.9
3. Louisiana 15.7
4. California 14.5
4. Florida 14.5
4. Mississippi 14.5
7. Georgia 13.8
8. Alabama 13.2
9. New Mexico 13.1
10. New York 12.7

https://www.disastercenter.com/crime...%20States.html
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Old 09-28-2021, 09:52 PM
 
Location: NE Atlanta Metro
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Damn, what was going on in Nevada in the 1980s!?!
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Old 09-29-2021, 09:21 AM
 
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Originally Posted by caliguy92832 View Post
The 2020 FBI Uniform Crime Report has been released. I just got done looking at the data.

https://crime-data-explorer.app.cloud.gov/pages/home

2020 City Homicide Rates

1. St. Louis, MO 88.1
2. New Orleans, LA 51.0
3. Detroit, MI 49.7
4. Trenton, NJ 48.2
5. Baton Rouge, LA 46.5
6. Flint, MI 46.4
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I wonder how they calculated the rate for Flint. Flint police reports 61 homicides in 2020: link. Flint had a population of 81,252 in 2020: link to Census data. That gives a rate of 75.07, not 46.4.
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Old 09-29-2021, 09:52 AM
 
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I wonder how they calculated the rate for Flint. Flint police reports 61 homicides in 2020: link. Flint had a population of 81,252 in 2020: link to Census data. That gives a rate of 75.07, not 46.4.
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In 2020, there were 40 homicide incidents, and 44 offenses reported by the Flint Police Department
Only Murder/Nonnegligent Manslaughter are included. FBI also very rarely goes by the current us census number.
Crime stats are audited multiple times before the FBI gets the data. Not uncommon for agencies to further investigate a crime and conclude that it was justified, should be changed to Manslaughter, or that it occurred in a different city/agency. They can also go back and change it to a prior year, and have it only included in internal stats.





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Old 09-29-2021, 02:54 PM
 
Location: California → Tennessee → Ohio
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Originally Posted by caliguy92832 View Post
The 2020 FBI Uniform Crime Report has been released. I just got done looking at the data.

https://crime-data-explorer.app.cloud.gov/pages/home

2020 City Homicide Rates

1. St. Louis, MO 88.1
2. New Orleans, LA 51.0
3. Detroit, MI 49.7
4. Trenton, NJ 48.2
5. Baton Rouge, LA 46.5
6. Flint, MI 46.4
7. Memphis, TN 44.4
8. Cleveland, OH 42.2
9. Shreveport, LA 37.2
10. Portsmouth, VA 36.1
11. Kansas City, MO 35.2
12. Dayton, OH 32.8
I just drove through downtown Dayton, OH for the first time today.
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Old 09-29-2021, 08:10 PM
 
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Minneapolis 74

St. Paul 30
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Old 09-30-2021, 10:49 PM
 
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Wow, I didn't know Jackson, MS was that bad!

Here's the top 10 states for homicide for last year.

State - 2020 Homicide Rate

1. Louisiana 15.8
2. Missouri 11.8
3. Mississippi 10.6
3. Arkansas 10.6
5. South Carolina 10.5
6. Tennessee 9.6
6. Alabama 9.6
8. Illinois 9.1
8. Maryland 9.1
10. Georgia 8.8

This is nothing though compared to the year 1980 when the U.S. rate was at an all time high of 10.2.

State - 1980 Homicide Rate

1. Nevada 20.0
2. Texas 16.9
3. Louisiana 15.7
4. California 14.5
4. Florida 14.5
4. Mississippi 14.5
7. Georgia 13.8
8. Alabama 13.2
9. New Mexico 13.1
10. New York 12.7

https://www.disastercenter.com/crime...%20States.html
It's the 32nd straight year that Louisiana's had the highest murder rate, but I remember reading something about Mississippi's rate being the highest in 2020.
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