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View Poll Results: What city is the most comparable to Baltimore?
Philadelphia 60 39.74%
Wilmington (Delaware) 24 15.89%
Washington, D.C. 14 9.27%
Norfolk 6 3.97%
Richmond 12 7.95%
Pittsburgh 11 7.28%
Boston 3 1.99%
Other 21 13.91%
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Old 02-04-2021, 10:20 PM
 
Location: Nashville, TN
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I voted for Philadelphia. Similar urban character and blue collar feel. Very apparent Irish, Italian, and German influences. Large black populations. Healthy economies, very nice suburbs, but horrible crime.
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Old 02-04-2021, 10:33 PM
 
Location: San Diego, CA
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I voted for Philadelphia. Similar urban character and blue collar feel. Very apparent Irish, Italian, and German influences. Large black populations. Healthy economies, very nice suburbs, but horrible crime.
This x10
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Old 02-05-2021, 12:36 AM
 
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I visited Baltimore last year again after visiting Philadelphia, DC, Richmond and Norfolk. I view Baltimore as a combination of Philadelphia, Richmond, and Norfolk. Basically if you mixed Philadelphia rowhouse and Richmond rowhouse neighborhoods and placed them in Norfolk's setting. The Harbor is basically Norfolk's Waterside on steroids. The pace of life in Baltimore seemed much slower than Philadelphia and reminded me of Norfolk. The Baltimore locals appeared more personable than their northern neighbors in Philadelphia and the local cuisines are similar to Norfolk (Tidewater/Chesapeake culture). The crime rate in Baltimore is more comparable to pre-gentrification DC and Richmond.
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Old 02-05-2021, 02:03 AM
 
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Philly is the closest. I matched up Johns Hopkins to Penn. Inner Harbor to Center City. They both have vast slums. It’s not a perfect match since Center City is much larger and more economically significant.
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Old 02-05-2021, 04:02 AM
 
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I'm going with St. Louis.
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Old 02-05-2021, 05:53 AM
 
Location: Germantown, Philadelphia
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How is Wilmington a "Baby Baltimore" when it is in the Philadelphia Metro? Shouldn't it be a baby Philly? Baltimore and Philly aren't anything alike.
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I've been to Wilmington several times. It looks like Philly. The demographics is far more similar to Philly, accents are that of Philly. The rowhouses look like Philly rowhouses.

I just don't see the Baltimore correlation
Well, when the discussion is limited to East Coast cities, the parallels are stronger with Philadelphia than they are with any other single city, though the poster who said Baltimore is more a blend of Philly, Richmond and Norfolk is probably closer to hitting the mark.

But even though the built environments (especially the residential development) of the two cities differ dramatically, I think STLgasm has a point about Baltimore resembling St. Louis. The Southern influence is stronger in Maryland than it is in Missouri, but both states have it; it tends to be a bone of contention in Missouri (whether or not they like it, the residents of Missouri's other large city, which sees itself as more Western than Southern, live in a part of the state that was a hotbed of pro-Confederate activity in both the runup to the Civil War ["Bleeding Kansas"] and the war itself; that's why there are two Civil War battlefields in the Kansas City area and none in metro St. Louis) and less of one in Maryland, but even so, Baltimore in no way feels like a Southern city save maybe for a less-hectic pace than one finds just up I-95 in Philly. And even though Philadelphia and Baltimore both share the status of being heavily industrialized cities where the industry fled, St. Louis has that same status too, and as STLgasm noted, both Baltimore and St. Louis are politically isolated independent cities in border states. (If you doubt that Baltimore is politically isolated, given Maryland's general liberalism, I invite you to examine [Republican] Gov. Larry Hogan's track record on transportation investments in that state; they show a clear bias towards the Maryland suburbs of Washington, which voted for him by and large, and away from Baltimore City, which didn't. In a perhaps Freudian gaffe early in his first term, Gov. Hogan released a map showing how his administration had made "transportation investments for all of Maryland" that had a hole where Baltimore City should have been.)

Because of those parallels, I voted "Other." However: for those who draw a bright line between Pennsylvania and Maryland, let's not forget that said bright line is the Mason-Dixon Line. Philadelphia actually did a good bit of commerce with the South prior to the Civil War; Penn's medical school, for instance, trained most of the South's doctors. And there was also opposition to the abolitionist cause here, as the destruction of Pennsylvania Hall one week after it opened in 1855 demonstrates.
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Old 02-05-2021, 06:09 AM
 
Location: Baltimore - Richmond
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I visited Baltimore last year again after visiting Philadelphia, DC, Richmond and Norfolk. I view Baltimore as a combination of Philadelphia, Richmond, and Norfolk. Basically if you mixed Philadelphia rowhouse and Richmond rowhouse neighborhoods and placed them in Norfolk's setting. The Harbor is basically Norfolk's Waterside on steroids. The pace of life in Baltimore seemed much slower than Philadelphia and reminded me of Norfolk. The Baltimore locals appeared more personable than their northern neighbors in Philadelphia and the local cuisines are similar to Norfolk (Tidewater/Chesapeake culture). The crime rate in Baltimore is more comparable to pre-gentrification DC and Richmond.
This is probably the best answer and exactly how I view it.
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Old 02-05-2021, 07:02 AM
 
Location: Chicago, IL
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As someone from Maryland who has lived in Baltimore and Philly, the 2 cities are not very similar at all. The similarities are completely overblown on this site. There are some stretches (style) of row homes in certain parts of the city that do look similar, but that is about it.

Here is my take on their differences:
-Philadelphia's scale is MUCH bigger than Baltimore's, and it's palpable. When you are in the heart of downtown Philly, you get a canyon feeling, similar to NY and Chicago. That is not the case at all with Baltimore, a city that doesn't even have a single skyscraper that is 600ft or greater. Philly has a 1000 ft skyscraper and several 600+ buildings. The size/scale of the cities are very different.
-The downtowns feel completely different. Baltimore's is centered around the harbor, whereas Philly's is in Center City, which has a much more traditional downtown feel to it. The heart of Center City feels absolutely nothing like the heart of downtown Baltimore.
-Philly feels much more ethnic and international than Baltimore. Philly has a real Chinatown, and South Philly feels much more authentically Italian. The Italian population in Philly is infinitely larger than Baltimore's and its influence is felt throughout the city. Philly also has a sizable Puerto Rican and Vietnamese population (although neither of these populations felt very pervasive to me). But overall, Philly has much more of an old-school ethnic feel than Baltimore.
-There is no equivalent to University City in Baltimore. This area continues to develop and grow in Philly. The closest thing in Baltimore would be the area around University of Maryland at Baltimore, which isn't nearly as lively, developed, or provide the entertainment, dining, living options that UCity does.
-I have only been to Druid Hill park in Baltimore once, and it seemed ok, but nothing like the scale or scenery of Fairmount Park in Philly.
-There is a tiny subway in Baltimore (that many people don't even know about). There is nothing like the the SEPTA in Philly, with the old school rail lines/subway combos akin to what you find in NY, Boston, and Chicago.

Outside of the "look" of a few of the residential areas, Philly and Baltimore are not very similar. Even the predominant row homes in Baltimore look a lot different. They tend to be shorter, flat (no porch), and very colorful. Now there are different styles, but this is the predominant style in Baltimore. You don't really see this style in Philly. They tend to be taller with porches.
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Old 02-05-2021, 07:48 AM
 
Location: Richmond, Virginia
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Probably Pittsburgh but the setting is different. If Pittsburgh were where Norfolk is, then the comparison would be easy but the Chesapeake Bay in Norfolk is more ocean-like than in Baltimore.

Richmond would be the furthest away -- these two cities are nothing alike and Baltimore is like 3x the size of Richmond.

Only one neighborhood of Richmond reminds me of Baltimore: Carytown vs. Hampden.
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Old 02-05-2021, 08:00 AM
 
Location: Philadelphia
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As someone from Maryland who has lived in Baltimore and Philly, the 2 cities are not very similar at all. The similarities are completely overblown on this site. There are some stretches (style) of row homes in certain parts of the city that do look similar, but that is about it.

Here is my take on their differences:
-Philadelphia's scale is MUCH bigger than Baltimore's, and it's palpable. When you are in the heart of downtown Philly, you get a canyon feeling, similar to NY and Chicago. That is not the case at all with Baltimore, a city that doesn't even have a single skyscraper that is 600ft or greater. Philly has a 1000 ft skyscraper and several 600+ buildings. The size/scale of the cities are very different.
-The downtowns feel completely different. Baltimore's is centered around the harbor, whereas Philly's is in Center City, which has a much more traditional downtown feel to it. The heart of Center City feels absolutely nothing like the heart of downtown Baltimore.
-Philly feels much more ethnic and international than Baltimore. Philly has a real Chinatown, and South Philly feels much more authentically Italian. The Italian population in Philly is infinitely larger than Baltimore's and its influence is felt throughout the city. Philly also has a sizable Puerto Rican and Vietnamese population (although neither of these populations felt very pervasive to me). But overall, Philly has much more of an old-school ethnic feel than Baltimore.
-There is no equivalent to University City in Baltimore. This area continues to develop and grow in Philly. The closest thing in Baltimore would be the area around University of Maryland at Baltimore, which isn't nearly as lively, developed, or provide the entertainment, dining, living options that UCity does.
-I have only been to Druid Hill park in Baltimore once, and it seemed ok, but nothing like the scale or scenery of Fairmount Park in Philly.
-There is a tiny subway in Baltimore (that many people don't even know about). There is nothing like the the SEPTA in Philly, with the old school rail lines/subway combos akin to what you find in NY, Boston, and Chicago.

Outside of the "look" of a few of the residential areas, Philly and Baltimore are not very similar. Even the predominant row homes in Baltimore look a lot different. They tend to be shorter, flat (no porch), and very colorful. Now there are different styles, but this is the predominant style in Baltimore. You don't really see this style in Philly. They tend to be taller with porches.

I agree with all said above.

If anyone has actually lived in the two cities they would realize. Philadelphia and Baltimore are really not that alike.

Just because both cities have rowhomes, does not mean they are similar.

Downtown Baltimore and Center City Philadelphia are nothing alike.

Penn's Landing and Inner Harbor. Are nothing alike.

And Philadelphia's ethnic neighborhoods are nothing like Baltimore's.

If anything, Wilmington and Baltimore share the most similarities.

Delaware and Maryland are very similar in many many ways when comparing the two states.
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