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I wonder if this contributes to the fact that many MA cities have high crime with low homicide rates.
Many homicides happen in or around nightclubs so if people are just sitting home because there is noplace to go in town or working 24/7 to afford the rent they don't have time to go out and run into people they have issues with. Obviously forcing people into a boring lifestyle isn't the best way to accomplish this, but it's something I've thought about before.
Rochester looks nice on streetviewer. I've heard the north side is rough but a lot of the streets look well maintained and quiet. compared to Springfield, MA, the city looks a lot nicer. The violent crime is lower overall but homicides are higher in Rochester.
I know I'm leaving some out and hopefully RocketSci is around to point out others. Again, it just depends on where you look in the city. Same for the other NY cities.
What makes this nice is that some of these nice street views for the NY cities thus far can vary culturally in terms of being more mixed/integrated, including being even predominantly black but diverse in some cases.
I wonder if this contributes to the fact that many MA cities have high crime with low homicide rates.
Many homicides happen in or around nightclubs so if people are just sitting home because there is noplace to go in town or working 24/7 to afford the rent they don't have time to go out and run into people they have issues with. Obviously forcing people into a boring lifestyle isn't the best way to accomplish this, but it's something I've thought about before.
I’m going say it’s likely due to the Drug Trade Geography. New England is out of the way so it has a lot fewer gang related stuff.
I’m going say it’s likely due to the Drug Trade Geography. New England is out of the way so it has a lot fewer gang related stuff.
Well NE have high rates of drug abuse and overdose deaths so I don't think that's valid. Basically every medium sized city in NE has a thriving drug market with various factions and influences. Actually I think it's the opposite effect. When there is less nightlife people are more likely to abuse drugs. Of course these aren't the only people who do but it's definitely a correlation. People still kill each other over drugs, but the drugs themselves kill more people than the drug trade these days. (in the US) It seemsl like more people are killing each other over personal beefs these days compared to drug trade
Well NE have high rates of drug abuse and overdose deaths so I don't think that's valid. Basically every medium sized city in NE has a thriving drug market with various factions and influences. Actually I think it's the opposite effect. When there is less nightlife people are more likely to abuse drugs. Of course these aren't the only people who do but it's definitely a correlation. People still kill each other over drugs, but the drugs themselves kill more people than the drug trade these days. (in the US) It seemsl like more people are killing each other over personal beefs unrelated to drugs than in the past.
Its the end market but its not like there is that much thru traffic. Having a big presence in say Chicago allows you to control a distribution network, multiplying your profits. Boston gets you Boston.
plus different states have different definitions of assault, but similar definitions of homicide. As well as different levels of social trust so things like assaults could go unreported. So that also has to do with it. If you look at incarceration rate, Massachusetts is low.
I’m going say it’s likely due to the Drug Trade Geography. New England is out of the way so it has a lot fewer gang related stuff.
i don't think that true at all. NYC move all their stuff directly to Boston. There are many gangs in new England, in fact, its pretty much responsible for all the time. Theres a major Federal raid every couple weeks..
Well NE have high rates of drug abuse and overdose deaths so I don't think that's valid. Basically every medium sized city in NE has a thriving drug market with various factions and influences. Actually I think it's the opposite effect. When there is less nightlife people are more likely to abuse drugs. Of course these aren't the only people who do but it's definitely a correlation. People still kill each other over drugs, but the drugs themselves kill more people than the drug trade these days. (in the US) It seemsl like more people are killing each other over personal beefs these days compared to drug trade
Very true. Hartford Providence is big drug cities. Boston supplies all of Northern New England as well as Massachusetts-thats 11 million people. And lastly-Massachusetts in particular is pretty rife with gangs its access to quality firearms is the issue.
Crips, Folks, Kings, Vice Lords, Trinitarios, 18th Street, MS-13, AZN Boys, Tiny Rascals, neighborhood gang. Pretty much everything but Nortenos and Surenos. Massachusetts has it
Its the end market but its not like there is that much thru traffic. Having a big presence in say Chicago allows you to control a distribution network, multiplying your profits. Boston gets you Boston.
plus different states have different definitions of assault, but similar definitions of homicide. As well as different levels of social trust so things like assaults could go unreported. So that also has to do with it. If you look at incarceration rate, Massachusetts is low.
Could it be that Buffalo's black market economy contains huge profits as an through-point to Toronto's massive retail drug market? Possibly.. I don't have any knowledge of it, but I guess geographically it could work. I just find it hard to believe there are so many "through points". I don't see how it explains much of the crime in STL or Memphis, which are basically in the middle of nowhere compared to Boston
It's not lack of street traffic or gangs that cause a decrease in crime its old unreliable, hand-me-down firearms and other useless guns from private seller VT ME and NH. And access to hospitals
Rochester has significantly more abandonment, more poverty and more crime.
but despite this it still offers a bit more than Worcester because its 1) bigger but 2) doesn't sell itself based on being close to somewhere else. People are proud of its own merits. This means the community invests in itself to be a worthwhile place to spend time. Rather than the prevailing attitude that anywhere with 50 miles of Boston has which is "if you want something nice, go to Boston"
With basically two exceptions, Lowell and Salem. Which the former isn't much different statistically from other cities like Brockton, Lynn, Worcester, or Fall River. Lowell sells itself as Lowell, with UML Hockey, the Folk Fest, Summer music series, its own culture and nightlife. Rather than the lede being "We are cheaper than Boston".
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