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View Poll Results: Which cities come to mind first as "Costal Elites"
Boston 128 57.66%
New York City 163 73.42%
Philadelphia 31 13.96%
Baltimore 6 2.70%
Washington DC 101 45.50%
Miami 38 17.12%
Seattle 64 28.83%
San Francisco 151 68.02%
San Jose 36 16.22%
Los Angeles 121 54.50%
San Diego 25 11.26%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 222. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 05-09-2021, 02:31 PM
 
Location: Miami (prev. NY, Atlanta, SF, OC and San Diego)
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Agreed...think of Miami as the hot chick without much upstairs—she still attracts more than her fair share of date offers on the weekend from desirable, eligible bachelors based on her looks.

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It's not really a surprise at all. The Miami Metro Area has one of the biggest concentrations of multimillion-dollar real estate, probably behind only NY and LA as far as $5M+ homes.

It's a very paradoxical metro area in that on the one hand, Miami is super DUPER rich right along the coastline and attracts far more more super rich than it's population and/or economic importance would suggest, but Miami has carved out a very distinct niche for itself and really nowhere is like it. Good for them.
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Old 05-09-2021, 02:32 PM
 
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Beverly Hills is #33 on the list.

That said, the reason why it doesn't rank higher is because Beverly Hills isn't uniformly wealthy - in fact it has a large population of low-income (primarily senior citizen) renters living in subsidized apartments. That's also why Beverly Hills ranks as one of the most unequal cities in California. With that comes lower average life expectancy, education, etc. and a weaker performance on the HDI than one might expect.
Oh I missed it thanks.
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Old 05-09-2021, 02:56 PM
 
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To hear from Bill Burr it's not even close
He has a knack for reading cities for filth, lol.

He also described Boston (his own home town) as being "a racist San Francisco."
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Old 05-09-2021, 02:59 PM
 
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I voted:

Boston - Education and Historic capital
New York - Financial capital
Philadelphia - Education and Historic capital
DC - Political capital
Miami - International Gateway
Seattle - Tech capital
San Fran - Tech capital
LA - Cultural capital of America

They are all elite in there own unique ways of all the coastal cities in the poll above.
I'm not 100% sure, but I don't think Boston has ever been the national or colonial capital?
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Old 05-09-2021, 03:01 PM
 
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He has a knack for reading cities for filth, lol.

He also described Boston (his own home town) as being "a racist San Francisco."
Which is funny considering Boston has 5 times as many black people as San Francisco.
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Old 05-09-2021, 05:21 PM
 
Location: Baltimore
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He has a knack for reading cities for filth, lol.

He also described Boston (his own home town) as being "a racist San Francisco."
Bill Burr is from Canton MA. Boston is not his hometown, he's even outside of the the inner loop.

Bill Burr understands Boston as much as a guy from Canton who hasn't lived in New England since 1994.
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Old 05-09-2021, 05:29 PM
 
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Which is funny considering Boston has 5 times as many black people as San Francisco.
Both Greater Boston and the SF Bay area relatively lacking in black people, but the difference is you don't hear about nearly as many stories of racist encounters in the SF Bay area by transplants as you do in the Greater Boston area, unless they're trying to climb the corporate ladder in Tech.

And in all fairness to the SF Bay, they at least accept they suck when it comes to black people and don't try so hard to prove otherwise (on C-D, other internet forums or in real life).

But yeah, getting back to Bill Burr, folks in Philly actually cheered him on because much of what he said in that rant had truth to it and he wasn't trying to put on airs to impress them. Folks in Philly can admit they have problems (they just don't care what people think about them and their problems), which is why I don't see them as elitist unlike SF, Seattle, Boston, etc.

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Old 05-09-2021, 05:40 PM
 
Location: Baltimore
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Both Greater Boston and the SF Bay area relatively lacking in black people, but the difference is you don't hear about nearly as many stories of racist encounters in the SF Bay area by transplants as you do in the Greater Boston area.

And in all fairness to the SF Bay, they at least accept they suck when it comes to black people and don't try so hard to prove otherwise
Greater Boston and Greater San Francisco are two drastically different place and not the same at all. They’re even more different than Boston and San Francisco.

Comparing Boston to San Francisco is a major difference, it simply feels different in many ways largely due to how race plays out and the demography of the city. Most people in Boston dont try to prove otherwise. We always discuss equity and how to improve Boston in those regards and there’s been tireless work on this front by a wide array of groups/community’s/organization for many decades. Progressivism has never stopped at race in Boston and it’s progressivism in that arena has long been established if not for a period from the 1970s-1990s. But those who dislike Boston do not care not acknowledge.

Most of us in Boston simply understand there’s far more to the city than that and it’s a narrative that has been used to pigeonhole the city to some extent and discount its overall quality. On the flip side do you really think mostly in SF do accept they suck when it comes to black people? I’d say that’s not true at all. I hear the opposite. As far as racist encounters I'm a firm believer that a Boston one gets clicks, even if it’s not even in the Boston MSA. That’s just clickbait for a certain demographics.

Boston people are not friendly or welcoming. That’s reality. Sensitive or self conscious folks won’t do well. You’re not gonna find it to be outwardly nice, when people already except racism I think they’re gonna take that coldness as racism. You’re expecting it as is. So normal unfriendly Boston behavior is gonna go into a micro aggression bucket. That’s my very honest opinion.
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Old 05-09-2021, 07:54 PM
 
Location: South Beach and DT Raleigh
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California's 1%
Rank/Score/Location
1 9.26 Palo Alto-Los Altos-Mountain View
2 9.26 Cupertino-Saratoga-Los Gatos
This is the town where I grew up as a kid. To understand how much it has changed, my parents bought a new house there in the mid 1960s for under $25,000 on my dad's salary alone as a 20 something IBMer without a college education.
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Old 05-09-2021, 08:17 PM
 
Location: Medfid
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Both Greater Boston and the SF Bay area relatively lacking in black people,
The trajectories are a bit different, though:

Based on ACS 1 year:

SF CSA 2019: 9,665,887 people total, 682,422 black alone or in combination, 7.1% of total
SF CSA 2010: 7,487,912 people total, 564,759 black alone or in combination, 7.5% of total

Boston CSA 2019: 8,287,710 people total, 744,456 black alone or in combination, 9.0% of total
Boston CSA 2010: 7,569,282 people total, 572,584 black alone or in combination, 7.6% of total

Based on ACS 5 year:

SF CSA 2019: 9,601,543 people total, 681,366 black alone or in combination, 7.1% of total
SF CSA 2010: 7,487,912 people total, 549,159 black alone or in combination, 7.3% of total

Boston CSA 2019: 8,229,287 people total, 698,595 black alone or in combination, 8.5% of total
Boston CSA 2010: 7,569,282 people total, 526,497 black alone or in combination, 7.0% of total

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Basically Boston has been getting blacker and SF hasn't.
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