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View Poll Results: Atlanta vs Phoenix
Atlanta 69 60.00%
Phoenix 46 40.00%
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Old 03-12-2021, 01:02 PM
 
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In some ways Phoenix doesn't need to develop a walkable city. It can play to its strengths, one of which is a top tier road system. Incremental improvements to walkability are fine, but I don't see them doing much to make carfree lifestyle reasonable anytime soon. Anyway improving transit would probably be more successful towards that goal since the city's already super spread out to begin with.
Hmm... Culdesac, the U.S.’s first, from-scratch car-free neighborhood, is coming to Tempe in 2020

https://www.fastcompany.com/90434128...cant-own-a-car
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Old 03-12-2021, 01:15 PM
 
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Wow, those dew points are just relentless in Atlanta. I personally can't stand when we get to the 50s here in AZ. How does that impact the low temps?
Atlanta's one of the better places in the South, dewpoint-wise.
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Old 03-12-2021, 01:19 PM
 
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Hmm... Culdesac, the U.S.’s first, from-scratch car-free neighborhood, is coming to Tempe in 2020

https://www.fastcompany.com/90434128...cant-own-a-car
lol good luck with that
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Old 03-12-2021, 02:07 PM
 
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lol good luck with that
Just pointing out the facts. Nothing new here, urban style development has been huge through the last expansion cycle in Phoenix.
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Old 03-12-2021, 02:15 PM
 
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Just pointing out the facts. Nothing new here, urban style development has been huge through the last expansion cycle in Phoenix.
I love the Valley, but haven't been out there in a while. The changes are impressive, I need to visit next Winter (hopefully).
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Old 03-13-2021, 12:57 AM
 
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My response was for informational data, not whether or not it matters enough to you for practical reasons. I'm getting an eerie sense of deja vu with this thread: https://www.city-data.com/forum/city...-metro-13.html
My point was not argumentative.Just factual when you are talking a difference of 20 minutes or so.If we are comparing metros and their positive and negative attributes then some things matter more than others.
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Old 03-13-2021, 07:29 AM
 
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I love the Valley, but haven't been out there in a while. The changes are impressive, I need to visit next Winter (hopefully).
I'm looking forward to all the reopenings paired with new openings post COVID, next winter should be a good time to visit with a lot of new projects wrapping up adding thousands of new urban residents. I live and work in Tempe so seeing what is happening here is pretty interesting, this area near University and Mill had no mid-rises just a few years ago.

This is my photo from a hike up A-Mountain in the fall.

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Old 03-13-2021, 07:37 AM
 
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Atlanta's one of the better places in the South, dewpoint-wise.

What causes the difference?
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Old 03-13-2021, 07:40 AM
 
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What causes the difference?
Elevation.
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Old 03-13-2021, 08:18 AM
 
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Elevation.
Interesting, Atlanta is pretty low elevation where I come from.

So for example Charlotte is around 760' of elevation and Atlanta is at 1050', are you saying that 300' makes a notable difference?
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