Which Upper South city has the strongest "southern" feel? (cons, market)
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That is great news. Seems like the monuments only dragged down Richmond's image. Maybe the hope is that the city can attract more business being both southern and progressive.
I don't think those monuments had that much of an impact on Richmond's image either way. If anything, any negative impact they had was countered by all of the new monuments and historic designations related to notable Blacks and women in the history of the city and state that were erected within the past decade or so.
Those monuments have already been removed. Many more were removed from Church Hill, the Capitol grounds, Monroe Park and a few parks in the Fan...Columbus and Harry Flood Byrd are gone too (the architect of Massive Resistance in Virginia).
Lee is the only one still up because it is state property (so the city couldn’t remove it). The state voted to remove it but some residents along Monument are fighting it in court. I really don’t get trying to save it at this point. In no universe does it stay up and not get tagged at least once a week for the next decade. I doubt it could be cleaned at this point too.
Lots of money has been earmarked by the state to replace the monuments and the Virginia Museum of Fine Arts is leading the project.
General Lee was one of the heroes of the South. Freedom of speech even by brainwashed leftists and BLM radicals doesn't mean vandalism is okay, that's still a crime and should be punished.
Richmond's history as the capital of the South is a significant thing and adds to its Southernness. It's still a world apart from Yankee transplant dominated liberal Northern Virginia.
If Cary screamed South to you then I'm shocked. Not to say that there can't be Southern attributes in any place in the South, but Cary is arguably the least "Southern" part of a metro area that has a ton of non-southern transplants. You'd be just as likely to hear a Long Island accent as you would a mild southern accent. The town counsel has enacted all sorts of strenuous regulations on how businesses need to be obscured from the roads and what sizes and colors their advertisements and establishments can be. It's been a running joke in the Raleigh area for years on Cary being boring and beige.
This is all correct, you are also more likely to meet someone from another Country (and continent for that matter) in Cary than you are someone who either grew up there or came from some small southern town, be it NC or another southern state.
General Lee was one of the heroes of the South. Freedom of speech even by brainwashed leftists and BLM radicals doesn't mean vandalism is okay, that's still a crime and should be punished.
That is great news. Seems like the monuments only dragged down Richmond's image. Maybe the hope is that the city can attract more business being both southern and progressive.
Richmond’s "image problem" was on city-data. The real world Richmond never had any image issue to the extent we read on here...
It's between Nashville and Charlotte to me, but I think Charlotte takes the cake ultimately. Nashville has has more Midwestern elements and the "Southern culture" rapidly dissipates outside of the tourist areas IMO. There is the Nashville that appeals to tourists and the rest of the city and they are fairly different worlds.
A lot of Nashville’s newer inner city SFH housing stock is very contemporary in appearance, and there’s considerably more of that style than you’d see around Charlotte or Atlanta. Louisville’s housing, while more quintessentially Midwestern-esque, is generally much older.
Walking around Uptown Charlotte or even visiting a Harris Teeter location for example gives me a more yuppified impression of Charlotte than Nashville. It’s hard to explain but Nashville is undoubtedly more come as you are while Charlotte gives a more buttoned up cosmopolitan vibe.
Nashville is southern through and through. It’s amplified downtown because of tourists, but you’ll see boots in all corners of town. Charlotte’s work while Nashville is play.
General Lee was one of the heroes of the South. Freedom of speech even by brainwashed leftists and BLM radicals doesn't mean vandalism is okay, that's still a crime and should be punished.
Richmond's history as the capital of the South is a significant thing and adds to its Southernness. It's still a world apart from Yankee transplant dominated liberal Northern Virginia.
The problem with some of the monuments is that while many went on to do other meaningful things with their lives (those that survived the war) they were memorialized in Confederate uniform. The man that went on to help establish Newport News Shipbuilding, which hired (and paid well) generations of AA, was memorialized in his uniform even though he was only in the war for a few months. Lee died a college president and white VA threw him on a horse. It wasn’t to honor him or his accomplishments. It was to honor a war, which he lost, that was fought for reprehensible reasons (the preservation of slavery).
I don’t think that racism was 100% of the motivation to build them (the City Beautiful Movement was in full swing) but racism is the reason why they were imagined so poorly.
Richmond has been shedding that ugly past for decades now. The statues and monuments were put into trusts back in the 90’s so that no public money went to support them. The Museum of the Confederacy is now the American Civil War Museum. Monuments celebrating civil rights leaders, women and Virginia Tribes have been erected. Street and office building names have been changed. Lots and lots of new state historic markers around town celebrate native Americans, the suffragists, slave rebellions, Union spies, LGBTQ people...
A lot of Nashville’s newer inner city SFH housing stock is very contemporary in appearance, and there’s considerably more of that style than you’d see around Charlotte or Atlanta. Louisville’s housing, while more quintessentially Midwestern-esque, is generally much older.
Walking around Uptown Charlotte or even visiting a Harris Teeter location for example gives me a more yuppified impression of Charlotte than Nashville. It’s hard to explain but Nashville is undoubtedly more come as you are while Charlotte gives a more buttoned up cosmopolitan vibe.
Nashville is southern through and through. It’s amplified downtown because of tourists, but you’ll see boots in all corners of town. Charlotte’s work while Nashville is play.
Nashville is definitely southern but it's definitely not true seeing people wearing cowboy boots in all corners of town lol. Not sure where you got that from but the only people doing that are tourists.
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