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For starters, the bold part describes Massachusetts.
Maryland is 30% black and 10% latino
NJ is 13 % Black and 21% Latino
CT is 10 % Black and 17% Latino. It literally follows NJ demographic trends ~15-20 years after they happen. MA follows CT by ~5-10 years.
MA and NJ are easily the most Asian states on the East Coast
NJ is much closer in population density to MA than Maryland, and even closer to CT
Northern NJ is the equivalent to SW CT and Eastern MA.
Southern NJ is the equivalent of Western MA
Maryland has no major urban area other than Baltimore
CT NJ and MA are peppered with urban areas.
NJ CT MA have large Italian Iirsh Puerto Rican Caribbean and Dominican populations, MD does not.
NJ has at least 2semi-major cities (Newark and Jersey City), More similar in size to those in MA (Worcester Springfield)
NJ CT MA are very northern, MD is more southern.
MD is definitely not it. But its a good 3rd or 4th. Rhode Island may even be more similar tbh.
Yeah, MA and NJ don't have anything near a similar feel to me. MA and CT, yes. But CT and NJ don't feel particularly similar to me at all, except perhaps in the fact they both have a bunch of medium-sized, somewhat stagnant cities. Maryland having no major urban area other than Baltimore isn't that big of a deal because NJ doesn't have any major urban area either other than the Newark area. Culturally, Maryland generally doesn't strike me as particularly southern (except for arguably, the eastern shore). Neither does NJ, but it isn't New England-like either. Culturally, NJ is kind of its own thing, but closer to what you'll find in MD if forced to pick between the two.
I associate CT and MA with each other more than probably any other two states, but I don't think (outside of demographically as you said) NJ is all that equivalent to either of them. It just feels more like Maryland than the New England states to me. It literally bridges those two regions so I'm not surprised other people see it differently, but CT and MA just have an entirely different feel to them imo.
Yeah, MA and NJ don't have anything near a similar feel to me. MA and CT, yes. But CT and NJ don't feel particularly similar to me at all, except perhaps in the fact they both have a bunch of medium-sized, somewhat stagnant cities. Maryland having no major urban area other than Baltimore isn't that big of a deal because NJ doesn't have any major urban area either other than the Newark area. Culturally, Maryland generally doesn't strike me as particularly southern (except for arguably, the eastern shore). Neither does NJ, but it isn't New England-like either. Culturally, NJ is kind of its own thing, but closer to what you'll find in MD if forced to pick between the two.
I associate CT and MA with each other more than probably any other two states, but I don't think (outside of demographically as you said) NJ is all that equivalent to either of them. It just feels more like Maryland than the New England states to me. It literally bridges those two regions so I'm not surprised other people see it differently, but CT and MA just have an entirely different feel to them imo.
Paterson Elizabeth Trenton Camden Atlantic City Irvington all have New England like equivalents.
Architecturally Newark Paterson Irvington look like New England cities, with triple-decker, older walk up tenements and the like. I could street-view places in Boston or New Haven and you wouldn't know it wasn't Irvington NJ
MD has far more post-1960s development than NJ CT and MA have much less of.
They all have Ivy league schools and tons of boarding/prep schools.
Southern Maryland (Charles County and point south is undeniably southern and rural, very much soo. Eastern Shor too as you said and then Western Maryland is southern in the same way West Virginia is. Its Central Maryland and Northern Maryland/Northeastern Maryland that feels much less southern.
One major difference that really disqualifies Maryland is its strong county governance and lack of towns. None of Baltimore County has any formal towns. NJ has 518 distinct towns with their own governments. The entire state is incorporated just like CT and MA.
MD is full of garden-style apartments, and really modern ahistorical development, a good deal more than NJ.
Massachusetts and New Jersey also both have Pine Barrens although the ones in MA are less well known and more on its islands...
The eastern part of PA is similar to NJ in many ways.
I was going to say this too. The Southeastern quadrant of PA - from Harrisburg to Allentown, and Lancaster to Philadelphia (via The Main Line) starts to feel kinda more like 'Jersey. Toss in Reading, PA and York, PA too for good measure.
I was going to say this too. The Southeastern quadrant of PA - from Harrisburg to Allentown, and Lancaster to Philadelphia (via The Main Line) starts to feel kinda more like 'Jersey. Toss in Reading, PA and York, PA too for good measure.
York feels like New Jersey to you? I dunno about that. I guess maybe Trenton... Trenton/Camden Philly area feel very different than the Northern part of the state
Overall PA is just too midwestern in feel. It misses that "coastal" international feel thats so strong in NJ.
York feels like New Jersey to you? I dunno about that. I guess maybe Trenton... Trenton/Camden Philly area feel very different than the Northern part of the state
Overall PA is just too midwestern in feel. It misses that "coastal" international feel thats so strong in NJ.
The Eastern part of Pennsylvania does not feel midwestern..
I would say though Reading and Elizabeth have a very similar feel..
New Jersey kind of has a Mass feel in parts but not its shore.
To me New Jersey is more of a blend of New York and Eastern Pennsylvania than Mass tho.
NJ has characteristics of all of the above however it completely depends what part of the state you're in.
South Jersey - Eastern PA
North Jersey - NY/followed by Eastern PA and New England feel in certain areas.
Central Jersey - a hodgepodge
The Shore - North/Central- NY with some smatterings of Eastern PA feel depending on the beach town
South Jersey - Vice versa
Last edited by BigCity76; 03-25-2021 at 06:37 AM..
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