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View Poll Results: Which city is the most urban?
New Orleans metro 22 37.29%
Miami metro 37 62.71%
Voters: 59. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 04-03-2021, 04:12 PM
 
Location: PHX -> ATL
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Title is pretty straightforward on this one.

Use the following criteria:
- Public transit (existing infrastructure as well as growth) and accessibility to those stops
- Dense buildings (anywhere from duplexes to skyscrapers)
- Walkability criteria
- Bike lanes
- Bus lanes
- Wide sidewalks
- Accessibility to public parks
- Zoning (mostly SFH? Excessive parking minimums?)

This is not a debate on which one is larger and has the most skyscrapers. We know the answer to that. Dubai is proof that just because you have more tall buildings does not mean you favor pedestrians over cars. This is about city design. Which one has the most walkable neighborhoods?
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Old 04-03-2021, 04:55 PM
 
Location: Springfield, Ohio
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I think N.O. would be more walkable, but doesn't it get a lot more suburban outside city limits compared to Miami?
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Old 04-03-2021, 08:21 PM
 
Location: Louisiana to Houston to Denver to NOVA
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I think N.O. would be more walkable, but doesn't it get a lot more suburban outside city limits compared to Miami?
I wouldn't say so. Metairie and Kenner are suburban but pretty old and built on a grid. I don't think there's a single McMansion or subdivision on the eastbank. I think the traditionally American suburbs are really only on the northshore.
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Old 04-04-2021, 02:59 AM
 
Location: Katy,Texas
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I wouldn't say so. Metairie and Kenner are suburban but pretty old and built on a grid. I don't think there's a single McMansion or subdivision on the eastbank. I think the traditionally American suburbs are really only on the northshore.
I have to agree to this. Because of the location, you basically have to leave contemporary New Orleans area (NOLA+Kenner+Metaire+smaller towns in St. Bernard's and Jefferson Parishes. The area is definitely suburban but a step up from the pure, suburbia you see in other parts of the U.S. Miami is similar in terms of geographic constraints but most of it's growth is in the suburban era, and as a result, it has loads of dense suburbia, but still far more suburban than the above areas I mentioned. Northshore area of New Orleans at this point is still more of a collection of small towns bleeding a bit into each other, than a unified suburban region. Their is a large development gap between Slidell and Covington.
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Old 04-04-2021, 09:31 AM
 
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Miami is so much bigger that it wins. It has more walkable areas overall ,but NO has more as a percentage basis
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Old 04-04-2021, 09:52 AM
 
Location: Houston/Austin, TX
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Miami is so much bigger that it wins. It has more walkable areas overall ,but NO has more as a percentage basis
Miami has a heavy rail system that gives it a lot of points
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Old 04-05-2021, 09:04 AM
 
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This is a hard question to answer as they have shockingly different feels, but I'm probably going to go with Miami on this one (New Orleans has lots of older suburbs with kinda mid density), but Miami just has a much larger urban area with multiple clusters (Miami, Fort Lauderdale, West Palm Beach) with most of the suburbs being near/west of FL Turnpike.
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Old 04-05-2021, 11:44 PM
 
Location: PHX -> ATL
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Miami is so much bigger that it wins. It has more walkable areas overall ,but NO has more as a percentage basis
So then NO is more urban, because more of it is walkable than suburban. We aren’t debating population, we are debating urban design.
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Old 04-06-2021, 05:18 AM
 
Location: Flawduh
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So then NO is more urban, because more of it is walkable than suburban. We aren’t debating population, we are debating urban design.
And this is why I’m leaning towards NO
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Old 04-07-2021, 09:11 PM
 
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We aren’t debating population, we are debating urban design.
Going by that 110% New Orleans.
It's far easier to manage everyday activities on foot in Nola than Miami.

NOLA lacks the new mass transit systems in Miami, but with the more human scale of New Orleans you don't miss it.

The system of streetcars combined with very narrow streets and a ton of mixed use buildings makes NOLA feel more urban at street level even without major mass transit
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