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Well you do have a history of downplaying enclaves in DFW. Remember our back and forth about its Koreatown?
That’s by design, not by purpose. I also have a history of mentioning how underrated the metroplex is for being international. Which it’s finally starting to get that recognition. But as compared to other major cities including Houston, it’s less ethnic enclaves focused.
And this is no exception. DFW has one of the strongest Vietnamese communities in USA, but in Garland, you have your Saigon Mall, which to me seemed like a smaller version of HK City Mall and not much outside of that. The area is very residential so this probably limits what it could be, but as a result, it doesn’t have the continuation you see elsewhere.
That’s by design, not by purpose. I also have a history of mentioning how underrated the metroplex is for being international. Which it’s finally starting to get that recognition. But as compared to other major cities including Houston, it’s less ethnic enclaves focused.
And this is no exception. DFW has one of the strongest Vietnamese communities in USA, but in Garland, you have your Saigon Mall, which to me seemed like a smaller version of HK City Mall and not much outside of that. The area is very residential so this probably limits what it could be, but as a result, it doesn’t have the continuation you see elsewhere.
If thats the case, then we really need to define what makes a nice ethnic enclave. To me, its all about the businesses and establishments and the quality they have. If its ugly, I dont really care.
Now if were talking about functionality and how well designed it is, then I can see your point.
What does any of this have to do with Boston having or not having the "nicest Little Saigon"?
I showed how much more outsized Boston’s Vietnamese community is compared to Chicago, New York, Tacoma, Philly, and Arlington. I guess I’d really need info for Fields Corner itself but that sounds hard compared to city-wide data. You could just trust me when I say that there is a neighborhood where Viet culture is clustered and it has some very good food.
And the data isn’t there to say it has the nicest one. Just a nicer one than most of the cities on the poll.
That video seems like a very accurate view of Seattle's Little Saigon (early Covid era). Its core is largely strip malls and warehouses, with some limited storefront retail. Along with cultural draw, growth pressures, cheapish land, a fairly new streetcar, and a wholesale redo of the Yesler Terrace housing project are bringing a lot of apartment buildings on its periphery. It's walkable to Downtown proper but definitely gritty and still pretty auto-intensive.
If thats the case, then we really need to define what makes a nice ethnic enclave. To me, its all about the businesses and establishments and the quality they have. If its ugly, I dont really care.
Now if were talking about functionality and how well designed it is, then I can see your point.
No it’s just about it being a lone strip mall and not much outside of this. The location is what I think holds it back from breaking through. And even more so, it’s not top 5 because there’s 5 that are superior. If the others didn’t exist, it would be top 5 no matter how it were set up.
Someone mentioned Chicago above. I don’t remember ever passing by this part of Chicago, but I don’t see how this wouldn’t be top 5. It looks just below the big 3 in all honesty. I’ll go next time I’m up there for sure.
I showed how much more outsized Boston’s Vietnamese community is compared to Chicago, New York, Tacoma, Philly, and Arlington. I guess I’d really need info for Fields Corner itself but that sounds hard compared to city-wide data. You could just trust me when I say that there is a neighborhood where Viet culture is clustered and it has some very good food.
And the data isn’t there to say it has the nicest one. Just a nicer one than most of the cities on the poll.
I believe you that Boston has a nice Vietnamese neighborhood, I just don’t see that the statistics help make that connection at the neighborhood level. I think that we saw in another topic that a city could have a relatively large percentage of south Asians, but not really have a significant south Asian neighborhood. Another city may have a high percentage of African immigrants, but no significant African neighborhood. Not saying that’s the case with Boston, just that overall populations and percentages may not correlate to thriving ethnic neighborhoods.
i believe you that boston has a nice vietnamese neighborhood, i just don’t see that the statistics help make that connection at the neighborhood level. I think that we saw in another topic that a city could have a relatively large percentage of south asians, but not really have a significant south asian neighborhood. Another city may have a high percentage of african immigrants, but no significant african neighborhood. Not saying that’s the case with boston, just that overall populations and percentages may not correlate to thriving ethnic neighborhoods.
No it’s just about it being a lone strip mall and not much outside of this. The location is what I think holds it back from breaking through. And even more so, it’s not top 5 because there’s 5 that are superior. If the others didn’t exist, it would be top 5 no matter how it were set up.
Someone mentioned Chicago above. I don’t remember ever passing by this part of Chicago, but I don’t see how this wouldn’t be top 5. It looks just below the big 3 in all honesty. I’ll go next time I’m up there for sure.
Wait...you think all Walnut Lane is a lone strip mall???
Probably the biggest East Coast Vietnamese population outside of Philly.
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