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View Poll Results: What city or area is the hardest to approve new development?
New York City 9 13.04%
Los Angeles 7 10.14%
San Francisco 46 66.67%
Chicago 3 4.35%
Washington DC 8 11.59%
Boston 14 20.29%
Houston 1 1.45%
Dallas 0 0%
Philadelphia 2 2.90%
Austin 0 0%
Atlanta 0 0%
Miami 0 0%
Tampa 0 0%
Seattle 4 5.80%
San Diego 2 2.90%
Phoenix 1 1.45%
Northern NJ Area 3 4.35%
Raleigh/Durham Area 1 1.45%
Charlotte 1 1.45%
Denver 0 0%
Honolulu 3 4.35%
Baltimore 1 1.45%
Memphis 1 1.45%
Indianapolis 0 0%
Nashville 0 0%
Other 2 2.90%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 69. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 04-12-2021, 12:05 PM
 
Location: Bergen County, New Jersey
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To be fair, those views aren't Boston specific. NYC, Philadelphia, Chicago, etc only a few miles out from the hearts of their respective CBD

Its just Boston their isnt a strong core outside.. well, its core. It dies out around the whole circle.
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Old 04-12-2021, 01:56 PM
 
Location: Bergen County, New Jersey
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...es_urban_areas

Here we go MJW, Boston has the second LEAST dense urban area out of the top 26 metropolitan areas. second lowest to just ATL
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Old 04-12-2021, 02:43 PM
 
Location: Baltimore
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...es_urban_areas

Here we go MJW, Boston has the second LEAST dense urban area out of the top 26 metropolitan areas. second lowest to just ATL
I knew saw that somewhere... SF Urban area is nearly 3x more dense.
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Old 04-12-2021, 02:49 PM
 
Location: Brooklyn the best borough in NYC!
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Not a major city but Santa Fe, NM. Everything has to fit the city's extremely specific Pueblo aesthetic standard as determined by a committee, and the costs of building compliant buildings has resulted in a punishing COL in a city dominated by low-wage service jobs.
That explains why that city looks like a real life flintstone episode
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Old 04-12-2021, 02:50 PM
 
Location: Bergen County, New Jersey
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I knew saw that somewhere... SF Urban area is nearly 3x more dense.
yeah i was like i knew i saw it somewhere. Im not that crazy..
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Old 04-12-2021, 02:54 PM
 
Location: Brooklyn the best borough in NYC!
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It’s funny cause if you didn’t research this stuff you would think nyc is easy cause there are construction sites everywhere and lots of Victorian homes being torn down.
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Old 04-12-2021, 04:51 PM
 
Location: Bergen County, New Jersey
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It’s funny cause if you didn’t research this stuff you would think nyc is easy cause there are construction sites everywhere and lots of Victorian homes being torn down.
True. And those ugly skinny things in Manhattan.. You would think architecture doesnt matter and everything is gettng approved
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Old 04-12-2021, 05:08 PM
 
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The rise in Cambridge will come.....
Your enthusiasm is good--but i don't believe there is much justification for this point of view.
Every borough is an enclave. Every enclave is nimby since Exchange Place broke ground around ~1982......
Thirty five years later the overlords still have to lie about how tall the tower is (538': not 510').
*the files are locked for 75 years.

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Cambridge has a lot. A looot of empty space to build on....
Yes. So.
The New York Streets & parts of Chinatown did too.
How did that work out?
Cambridge has a nimby crowd just like the South End. Serious height had been discussed for the areas near Kendall Sq and Cambridge Crossing.
It will be in another reality before towers pushing Haulover Inlet height.

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Boston's skyscrapers, or noticeable standout buildings, will fall off a cliff.
As in 'an ending?' Correct. After Central Wharf there are no proposals currently under review over 339'. A few pushing ~400 have all failed under review. Maybe we see some buildings go to that height or a few feet above.
The only parcel i know of is part of the State Services Ctr: zoned for 400'. No zoning relief for the site.

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Old 04-12-2021, 05:38 PM
 
Location: Katy,Texas
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yeah i was like i knew i saw it somewhere. Im not that crazy..
I was about to point this out to you, that it's not MSA but urban area because Western and southern cities tend to have massive MSAs because of the counties that aren't really representative of the area.

Boston is 2nd in the top 26, but Charlotte is actually less dense to the point were it's urban area is split into like 4-5 different urban areas. The issue is Atlanta is increasing in density everywhere, and the density of the northern suburbs of Atlanta and the pro-density trend that seems to be started by the cityhood movement will mean it could very well catchup to Boston and pass it. As well as the bad infrastructure meaning it can't sprawl north as much anymore. Which means the current low density urban area is being filled in.
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Old 04-12-2021, 06:16 PM
 
Location: Bergen County, New Jersey
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Your enthusiasm is good--but i don't believe there is much justification for this point of view.
Every borough is an enclave. Every enclave is nimby since Exchange Place broke ground around ~1982......
Thirty five years later the overlords still have to lie about how tall the tower is (538': not 510').
*the files are locked for 75 years.



Yes. So.
The New York Streets & parts of Chinatown did too.
How did that work out?
Cambridge has a nimby crowd just like the South End. Serious height had been discussed for the areas near Kendall Sq and Cambridge Crossing.
It will be in another reality before towers pushing Haulover Inlet height.



As in 'an ending?' Correct. After Central Wharf there are no proposals currently under review over 339'. A few pushing ~400 have all failed under review. Maybe we see some buildings go to that height or a few feet above.
The only parcel i know of is part of the State Services Ctr: zoned for 400'. No zoning relief for the site.
I mean there is more to a city than height. If it is good urbanity, then so what. South End is great infill.
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