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Old 06-19-2021, 06:55 AM
 
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And why is that?

Despite numerically having more high rises, the vast majority of Houston and Dallas’s high-rises/skyscrapers are office, not residential.
Despite having a large number of commercial towers, Houston and DFW has as many hirises as the cities mentioned.
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Old 06-19-2021, 10:55 AM
 
Location: Odenton, MD
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And why is that?

Despite numerically having more high rises, the vast majority of Houston and Dallas’s high-rises/skyscrapers are office, not residential.
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Despite having a large number of commercial towers, Houston and DFW has as many hirises as the cities mentioned.
Dallas nor Houston have as many high rise residential as Atlanta, let alone Boston
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Old 06-19-2021, 11:01 AM
 
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Do you have stats on that?
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Old 06-19-2021, 11:24 AM
 
Location: Odenton, MD
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Do you have stats on that?
https://www.skyscrapercenter.com/explore-data Which is the official website of CTBUH has a numerical break down of every cities buildings by type (it’s behind a paywall now so I can’t access anymore)

90% of Dallas’s skyscraper/high-rise (+100m) are composed of office buildings

A few cities by office skyscraper/high-rise percentage shares.

Seattle - 81%
Houston - 80%
Boston - 77%
Denver - 75%
Baltimore - 75%
Atlanta - 53%
NYC - 51%

Miami is the only city where the majority is residential (68%)

If we lower the minimum height requirement then that metric gets more convoluted, especially when you consider that a city like Dallas or Houston (+300 sq. Miles and +600 sq. miles respectively) have the political geographic reach that smaller cities don’t have the luxury of which adds to their raw numerical count.

While Dallas is for sure building a ****load of residential, it would literally have to double its current high-rise amount to match cities like Boston or Atlanta

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Old 06-19-2021, 12:04 PM
 
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https://www.skyscrapercenter.com/explore-data Which is the official website of CTBUH has a numerical break down of every cities buildings by type (it’s behind a paywall now so I can’t access anymore)

90% of Dallas’s skyscraper/high-rise (+100m) are composed of office buildings

A few cities by office skyscraper/high-rise percentage shares.

Seattle - 81%
Houston - 80%
Boston - 77%
Denver - 75%
Baltimore - 75%
Atlanta - 53%
NYC - 51%

Miami is the only city where the majority is residential (68%)

If we lower the minimum height requirement then that metric gets more convoluted, especially when you consider that a city like Dallas or Houston (+300 sq. Miles and +600 sq. miles respectively) have the political geographic reach that smaller cities don’t have the luxury of which adds to their raw numerical count.

While Dallas is for sure building a ****load of residential, it would literally have to double its current high-rise amount to match cities like Boston or Atlanta
Your own stats prove my point. Houston has similar percentages as Seattle and Boston but a higher number of skyscrapers. That would mean it has more residential skyscrapers overall. It's just common sense.

I am not sure why you latched on to Miami, just about everyone who posted agrees Miami has a ton of condo towers, I took issue with the listed Houston and DFW with cities that barely have skyscrapers white listing Boston and Atl much higher up when this have similar numbers to Houston.

Using your percentage and dirty pirates' raw numbers we get a figure of 87 residential towers for Houston, 38 for Dallas, 47 for Boston and 43 for Seattle
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Old 06-19-2021, 12:22 PM
 
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That's not true for Seattle. A quick tally (ballparking a few of the heights) shows:

Completed, Downtown Seattle:
--32 office (one with a single housing unit)
--2 mixed office/residential (actually both still in initial TIs)
--7 hotel
--2 hotel/residential
--17 residential

Underway, Downtown Seattle:
--14 residential (not counting four started but stalled and now updating permits for a restart) (Edited: Five are allowed to go to 330', which appears to be just over the 328.1' required)...a couple might be a hair under.)

Bellevue has six more above 420' (not looking up shorter ones), including two office, two hotel/residential, and two residential. Plus a couple offices underway.
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Old 06-19-2021, 12:54 PM
 
Location: Philadelphia
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Dallas and Houston certainly have high rises.

Most are comprised of office or hotel use. Not residential....

Although I could potentially see some conversions taking place.


Also to notate. Pittsburgh has a sizable amount of High-rise residential development... someone commented they were confused on how it was ranked in the B category that I posted before.

But to be honest... the only cites in the USA that have any substantial condo market that are not rental units of high rise buildings are:



NYC


Miami




Chicago



LA
Boston
San Fran
Philadelphia
DC



Seattle
Atlanta


I would rank DC higher if it was not for the height restrictions.. but most of DC condos are midrise.. not high-rise buildings.
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Old 06-19-2021, 12:58 PM
 
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Using the percentages and the numbers dirtypirate posted, Almost all of Pittsburgh and Baltimores towers would have to be residential to have a many as Houston.

That is if Joakim's percentages are correct.

Do you need me to do the calculations or you just going to keep saying that most of Houston Towers are not residential?
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Old 06-19-2021, 01:29 PM
 
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Some folks really need to start visiting these cities before saying there isn't anything happening there. Houston (inside loop 610 and Uptown) and Dallas (inside loop 12) have built tons of highrises over the past 10-15 years.
If you've been to Atlanta and Houston you can tell Houston has a larger skyline then Atlanta just drive up 610 South to through the Galleria area and get on 59 North and exit spur 527 into downtown. Or take a drive down memorial drive from downtown to the Galleria area.
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Old 06-19-2021, 01:41 PM
 
Location: Chicago, IL
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Of cities I'm familiar with:
New York
Chicago
Philadelphia
Boston
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