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I have no idea and I don't think anyone else does either. If you really want to know that then you'd need to add up the total number of floors for all residential buildings in each city and subtract [15*the number of buildings]. Until then, all we can do is just go off of the number of 15+ buildings in comparable areas.
We could weight the number by multiplying the buildings of each size by a factor. For example, 10-20 stories it would be the number of buildings times 0.25, since only one quarter or so of the residents are
high rise living. For 20-30 it would be the number of buildings multiplied by 0.5. For 30-50 use 0.70 and for 50+ use 0.85.
That sounds a little silly, but it's consistent with how serious some people are taking this mental exercise. My guess is that we end up with NYC, Chicago, Miami, and then everyone else far enough behind that it's not even worth the exercise to sort them out.
Here is an aerial shot of the Wilshire Corridor in Los Angeles.
Those are almost all residential and it's very odd for LA. Almost all two story apartments surrounding and then a long corridor of high rises and mid-rises. They are among the highest priced apartments in LA, but that's not why I wouldn't want to live there. It's because it's completely car-oriented. There's nothing within walking distance. Plus those buildings all have "yards" in front of them. It's about as non-urban as a high rise corridor can be. It's what many sunbelt cities are full of.
I know we did, but you must have slept through that discussion since you are still pointing to the OP criteria as a supposed basis for downgrading DC.
Atlanta - 135 sq miles:
Total highrises of 15 floors plus -- 223
DC area at 135 sq miles:
Total highrises of 15 floors plus-- 237
But I agree it's much easier to go with "feelings" than actual data.
I apologize my assessment over 75m does not sit well. Remember I used different parameters as most people on a 15 story building dont live in a high rise floor
Keep in mind, this is an opinionated thread. Although you may disagree with my assessment, keep it civil and on topic to avoid confrontations and derailments.
The square mileage thing is an odd measure. Sometimes most highrises are basically in or near downtown.
Yes and a big point, Seattle and Boston tend to have taller buildings than DC. So while they might have a similar number in/near the CBD.. the Seattle and Boston ones may as well have more units above 15 stories tall. I mean, one 700ft tower in Boston has 300+ units. Im sure this is the case in Seattle as well.
Are you measuring this by core or metro? By core, I would completely rearrange. Either way, DC should be higher.
And I am going out on a limb (maybe I'm wrong), but I would wager that Center City + U City have more residential high-rises (15ish stories or higher), than all of the areas you mentioned in Atlanta. Remember, Philadelphia has residential high-rises over 100 years old, everything did not start 10 years ago.A full exploration reveals how many mid/high-rise residential buildings there are.
But both do have A LOT of residential mid/high-rise projects in the pipeline. Literally dozens of projects in each downtown area alone.
And expanding to entire metro is where some cities make up ground. Even Philadelphia's largest suburbs suffer from NIMBY-ism if a building is over 4 stories (similar to Boston), until lately.
Give Atlanta some credit here cpomp, it isn't new. Highrise living didn't just start here '10 years ago.' There are several posh buildings in Midtown dating from the early 1900's. This more recent era started in the 1960's with the upscale Plaza Towers, and hasn't stopped.
Yes and a big point, Seattle and Boston tend to have taller buildings than DC. So while they might have a similar number in/near the CBD.. the Seattle and Boston ones may as well have more units above 15 stories tall. I mean, one 700ft tower in Boston has 300+ units. Im sure this is the case in Seattle as well.
Most 15 story buildings in DC proper have between 400-500 units.
I apologize my assessment over 75m does not sit well. Remember I used different parameters as most people on a 15 story building dont live in a high rise floor
Keep in mind, this is an opinionated thread. Although you may disagree with my assessment, keep it civil and on topic to avoid confrontations and derailments.
I actually have no problem with your assessment on 75m+. Of course that's not the OP criteria, but if that's your personal definition of a highrise, so be it.
I was responding on the back of this exchange:
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Originally Posted by MDAllstar
DC has a lot of people living in highrises too. It would be interesting to get population counts by metro area for all buildings.
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Originally Posted by masssachoicetts
Again OP said 15 stories or higher. Whether or not thats the definition of high rise, thats the parameter for this thread
When I pointed out to you that going by 15 floors+, DC has more highrises than Atlanta, Seattle and Boston, you asked for the source. When I provided the source, you dodged... so what gives?
It's kinda funny but there literally hasn't been a single coherent, fact-based post on this entire thread explaining why Atlanta, Seattle and Boston should be ranked higher than DC on the OP criteria. There seems to be a school of thought that, raw numbers aside, Atl/Seattle/Boston have higher highrises than DC and therefore should be ranked higher. That may be true, but keep in mind that Atl/Seattle/Boston also have a very high percentage of their highrises (particularly their tallest highrises) in the CBD, a large portion of which are offices and hotels. Whereas most of the DC area highrises are outside of the CBD and therefore a higher proportion of them are residential. So the gap between DC and the others may actually be greater than the raw numbers suggest.
I actually have no problem with your assessment on 75m+. Of course that's not the OP criteria, but if that's your personal definition of a highrise, so be it.
I was responding on the back of this exchange:
When I pointed out to you that going by 15 floors+, DC has more highrises than Atlanta, Seattle and Boston, you asked for the source. When I provided the source, you dodged... so what gives?
It's kinda funny but there literally hasn't been a single coherent, fact-based post on this entire thread explaining why Atlanta, Seattle and Boston should be ranked higher than DC on the OP criteria. There seems to be a school of thought that, raw numbers aside, Atl/Seattle/Boston have higher highrises than DC and therefore should be ranked higher. That may be true, but keep in mind that Atl/Seattle/Boston also have a very high percentage of their highrises (particularly their tallest highrises) in the CBD, a large portion of which are offices and hotels. Whereas most of the DC area highrises are outside of the CBD and therefore a higher proportion of them are residential. So the gap between DC and the others may actually be greater than the raw numbers suggest.
Its literally an opinion based thread. And go back to the earlier pages where it was specifically outlined. Nobody wants to have this debate… for the third time. This is the last time im responding to this to prevent thread clogging.
And also, how many individual units in DC actually sit above 15 stories them selves. A lot of DC complexes top out at 20 floors leaving 4 plus mechanicals. Whereas in Boston and Seattle (and Atlanta) theres 30-40 and 60 story residential building's. Just because DC has a plethora of 15-20 story buildings, theres not that many units above in its self 150ft. Thats just fact. High Rise living is more common and more realistic in SEA ATL BOS over DCA. 90%+ of DCs buildings barely meet this requirement and the vast majority of the units sit below that threshold.
To a lot of people, thats not a high rise city. Its a mid rise city
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