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Old 07-28-2021, 11:43 AM
 
Location: Houston, TX
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What does this have to do with being a mecca?

Im not following this post
That you cant compare an enclave (or Mecca for those who are foreign born) to something that is American. The dynamics are too different.
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Old 07-28-2021, 11:44 AM
 
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Ok, everyone can bow down now. To the almighty Boston East Asian Mecca!
I made a lotta good points to rank Boston above DC that you can't actually refute. Unless you're telling me the Capital of American that is less East Asian than Boston is the "almighty DC East Asian Mecca!"
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Old 07-28-2021, 11:46 AM
 
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That you cant compare an enclave (or Mecca for those who are foreign born) to something that is American. The dynamics are too different.

(Black) Americans cant have enclaves or Meccas? DC is literally called "the Mecca"

I find it funny how we're listing events in primary cities, and also listing primary cities- but primary cities are of no importance?
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Old 07-28-2021, 11:49 AM
 
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(Black) Americans cant have enclaves or Meccas? DC is literally called "the Mecca"

I find it funny how we're listing events in primary cities, and also listing primary cities- but primary cities are of no importance?
So what makes a mecca for a foreign-born person... that doesn't for an American?

Isn't SF the East Asian Mecca in large part due to their presence in San Francisco??
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Old 07-28-2021, 11:49 AM
 
Location: Houston/Austin, TX
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I haven't found this to be true, like at all-

" Vietnamese and Filipino people in America in particular often live in areas near East Asian communities, work in East Asian owned businesses,"

Both these communities tend to live near black people because of their lower-incomes. And they work in their own stores more often than not. Not East Asian ones.

Southeast Asia and East Asia are pretty distinct I think most people would agree.
This only applies in some areas. In Houston, the Chinatown and Viet Town are so close together that they are often considered one huge Asian combined neighborhood. The Filipinos live in white majority suburbs.

In Dallas, the Viets live in white majority suburbs with high East Asian (including SE Asia) populations.

Almost everywhere I have seen, Koreans live in Hispanic heavy areas though this can be a coincidence.

That statement is MOST CERTAINLY true. Filipinos and Vietnamese generally eat and shop in the same places as YOUR definition of East Asia. On the contrary, Indians and Pakistanis generally don’t.
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Old 07-28-2021, 11:54 AM
 
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This only applies in some areas. In Houston, the Chinatown and Viet Town are so close together that they are often considered one huge Asian combined neighborhood. The Filipinos live in white majority suburbs.

In Dallas, the Viets live in white majority suburbs with high East Asian (including SE Asia) populations.

Almost everywhere I have seen, Koreans live in Hispanic heavy areas though this can be a coincidence.

That statement is MOST CERTAINLY true. Filipinos and Vietnamese generally eat and shop in the same places as YOUR definition of East Asia. On the contrary, Indians and Pakistanis generally don’t.
Shoot, there are a lot of studies out there on Filipino black overlap and intermarriage-a lot.

In Boston, the Vietnamese and Chinese don't live near each other as the Vietnamese live in heavily black Dorchester and they recently were at odds with the Chinese over revised exam school admissions for lower-income (read Vietnamese black and Hispanic) students.

Quincy and Lexington are Chinese but nearly all the Asians in Lowell where it's more noticeably black and Hispanic are Cambodian (or Laotion). Same with Providence Rhode Island. Same with Randolph Revere and Lynn all mostly non-white with high Black or Hispanic (45%+) and Vietnamese or Cambodian populations. Where Im from no one is conflating Vietnamese Filipino and Cambodian with Chinese and Korean.

Additionally don't a lot of Asians live amongst black people in Oakland and the Twin cities?

I see many Vietnamese in Boba Teas shops, running nail salons, etc. I don't see many visible Cambodians or Filipinos in the Chinese food spots.
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Old 07-28-2021, 11:59 AM
 
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(Black) Americans cant have enclaves or Meccas? DC is literally called "the Mecca"

I find it funny how we're listing events in primary cities, and also listing primary cities- but primary cities are of no importance?
No, they are just DIFFERENT. There are dynamics in play for foreign born people that dont exist for Americans of any color.

Chinatown doesnt exist for you or tourists. Its there for people who live there from China. A place where they can speak their language, buy their products, and eat their food.

Black Americans in Atlanta or DC speak English, buy things that you can buy almost anywhere, and dont have to move to a new country.
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Old 07-28-2021, 11:59 AM
 
Location: Houston/Austin, TX
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Shoot, there are a lot of studies out there on Filipino black overlap and intermarriage-a lot.

In Boston, the Vietnamese and Chinese don't live near each other as the Vietnamese live in heavily black Dorchester and they recently were at odds with the Chinese over revised exam school admissions for lower-income (read Vietnamese black and Hispanic) students.

Quincy and Lexington are Chinese but nearly all the Asians in Lowell where it's more noticeably black and Hispanic are Cambodian (or Laotion). Same with Providence Rhode Island. Same with Randolph Revere and Lynn all mostly non-white with high Black or Hispanic (45%+) and Vietnamese or Cambodian populations.

Additionally don't a lot of Asians live amongst black people in Oakland and the Twin cities?

I see many Vietnamese in Boba Teas shops, running nail salons, etc. I don't see many visible Cambodians or Filipinos in the Chinese food spots.
If we are stereotyping, Cambodians generally run donut shops. While, as you mention, Vietnamese run nail salons and boba shops. And Chinese run restaurants. Those are generally the stereotypes thought if I’m not mistaken, there’s a direct reason for it which is open investment opportunities overseas. That’s the same reason South Asians stereotypically run convenience stores.

Filipinos are by far the biggest overlapping interracial marriage group from Asia in general both for white and black. This both holds cultural reasons (Filipinos are generally more open + Catholic dominance) and economic reasons (a bigger will to leave for better opportunities).
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Old 07-28-2021, 12:00 PM
 
Location: Houston/Austin, TX
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Mecca refers to a center for a specified group. Usually, it’s used in reference to residents.
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Old 07-28-2021, 12:04 PM
 
Location: Baltimore
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Chinatown doesnt exist for you or tourists. Its there for people who live there from China. A place where they can speak their language, buy their products, and eat their food.
So by that logic Boston> DC? Right?
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