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Old 07-27-2021, 02:52 PM
 
Location: Houston, TX
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Why? There are huge Chinese markets, the biggest Great Wall Market in the U.S.
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Because Atlanta's offerings towards the Chinese and Taiwanese communities are outdone by a lot of other cities like LA, SF, Seattle, NYC, Boston, Chicago, Houston, and Philadelphia. What Atlanta offers isnt really unique.

With Korean amenities, its a bit different. Atlanta is still behind a few other cities but its more noteworthy.
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Old 07-27-2021, 03:17 PM
 
Location: Houston/Austin, TX
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Why? There are huge Chinese markets, the biggest Great Wall Market in the U.S.

Also all along Buford Highway are many Chinese options (along with Vietnamese, Mexican, and others). The Chinese cafe Sweet Hut & Bakery started in Atlanta with several locations and recently opened in Plano, Texas.
You need to travel a bit. This is not even close to any city I ranked above Atlanta except Dallas.
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Old 07-27-2021, 04:22 PM
 
Location: Town of Herndon/DC Metro
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[quote=TheTimidBlueBars}Why is DC so high? Looks good otherwise.[/QUOTE]

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2. Spanish
3. Korean.
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Old 07-27-2021, 04:23 PM
 
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Why is DC so high? Looks good otherwise
Although DC proper does not have a relatively high east asian population the metro area has many areas with large east asian populations. Rockville and Annandale are two places in DC that are known for their East Asian communities. Not to metion many other areas in both Northern Virginia and Maryland have large east asain populations. DC also has a traditional Chinatown which although it is relatively small it still has more historical east asian cultural significance than anywhere in a city like Atlanta or Houston. Although it is now 2021 and I am sure the data has changed the Atlanta metro Asian population percentage was 6.1% in 2019. Houston's metro Asian population percentage was 8%. The DC metro area Asian population percentage was 10.3% in 2019. So I believe the the OP list is pretty accurate. DC also has many cultural events that celebrate East Asian American culture. The Japanese Cherry Blossom Festivities in the Spring, and the Chinese New Year celebration in the winter are two of the most prominent annual events in DC.
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Old 07-27-2021, 09:25 PM
 
Location: Medfid
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Agree. Boston cannot compare to Chicago when you look at the totality. It's laughable...... Maybe for a few select groups. Boston also doesn't have the kind of Asian enclaves that Chicago does.
Care to try and prove it?

I thought of one way - enclaves are probably hard to get census data on, but I figure that zip codes may be the closest definitions that exist.

However if a zip code is very sparsely populated, even small groups of a particular identity could be seen as an "enclave" when they really aren't. So, I defined a "potential enclave" as any zip code with at least 5,000 people in it. The state of IL has 480 zip codes with more than 5,000 people. Massachusetts has 335.

Which brings me to my next assumption: that most of metro Chicago's East Asian enclaves are probably in IL rather than WI or IN. Likewise, metro Boston's are probably in MA rather than NH or RI. Furthermore, most of IL's East Asian enclaves are probably around Chicago rather than Springfield or Peoria. Likewise, MA's are probably concentrated around Boston rather than Worcester or Springfield.

So here's the data I compiled:





By raw number, MA has more zip codes that have at least 5,000 people and are at least 5% East Asian. Indeed for every percentage above 5%, MA has more zip codes.

By %, MA is ahead from the very beginning.

Here are Illinois' top 10 East Asian zips (sorry for not knowing proper Chitown names):
60616 - 39% - Chicago's Chinatown
*61801 - 17% - Urbana (big enough to meet the criteria unfortunately)
60661 - 16% - West Loop
60192 - 15% - Hoffman Estates
60659 - 15% - northwest of Rosehill Cemetery
60076 - 15% - Skokie
60053 - 14% - Morton Grove
*61874 - 14% - Savoy (guess Urbana-Champaign has a big E. Asian presence?)
60173 - 14% - Schaumburg
60062 - 13% - Northbrook

*The next two most East Asian 'Chicago' zips are 60601 (13% - North Loop) and 60061 (13% - Vernon Hills).

Here are Massachusetts' top 10 East Asian zips:
02111 - 44% - Boston's Chinatown
02170 - 39% - Wollaston
01851 - 34% - Lowell Highlands
02171 - 33% - North Quincy
02134 - 22% - Allston
02122 - 19% - Field's Corner
02169 - 19% - Quincy Center
02420 - 19% - East Lexington
02148 - 17% - Malden
01854 - 17% - Downtown Lowell

So anyway....you were saying??
Ranking should be (imo) .... '(City A), (City B)....DC, Houston, Boston, Chicago, Dallas....(City Y), (City Z)'. SD and Honolulu above these 5; Las Vegas below.

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"East Asian" in this case means people from Myanmar, Cambodia, China, the Philippines, Indonesia, Japan, S. Korea, Laos, Malaysia, Mongolia, Taiwan, Thailand, or Vietnam.

I used tables B02015 and B01003 from the census website for the data.

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Old 07-27-2021, 10:17 PM
 
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Asians are the third largest minority in San Diego? What’s the second then?
Oops, meant third largest race.

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I will say - Seattle metro has a slightly larger Black population than San Diego (7% vs 5%) but San Diego has a much larger Hispanic population (31% vs 10%) so the Asian population in Seattle stands out a little more.
Closer to 6.5% vs. 5.5%, so negligible. However, it's worth noting that Seattle's black population is likely much more diverse due to the larger immigrant population.

That's a valid point. Also worth pointing out that Seattle has multiple independent jurisdictions with significant percentage of Asians. San Diego doesn't have this at all (even with 90% of San Diegans living in jurisdictions that are minority-majority, there isn't a comparable concentration).

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Also, how do Seattle and San Diego’s Vietnamese and Filipino population compare? I think they’re pretty similar.
Vietnamese very similar. 2010 Census had San Diego's Filipino population at 5.88% of region total. Seattle was 2.84%.

Actually, I found a better and more recent data source (Pew Research, 2019) that suggests Seattle may have a more diverse East/SE Asian population than San Diego. They don't have % and it's only limited to metros that represent the 10 largest populations of that nationality/origin, but Seattle appears to beat San Diego. Possibly a result of the growth of the past decade?

https://www.pewresearch.org/social-t...ns-in-the-u-s/
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Old 07-28-2021, 03:44 AM
 
Location: Pacific Northwest
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Seattle metro is a big one because Asians are the largest minority there. Soup dumplings and teriyaki are so common in Seattle that it's basically just "food."

The Californian cities have large Asian populations but are somewhat overshadowed by an even larger Latino population.
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Old 07-28-2021, 07:28 AM
 
Location: Baltimore
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Although DC proper does not have a relatively high east asian population the metro area has many areas with large east asian populations. Rockville and Annandale are two places in DC that are known for their East Asian communities. Not to metion many other areas in both Northern Virginia and Maryland have large east asain populations. DC also has a traditional Chinatown which although it is relatively small it still has more historical east asian cultural significance than anywhere in a city like Atlanta or Houston. Although it is now 2021 and I am sure the data has changed the Atlanta metro Asian population percentage was 6.1% in 2019. Houston's metro Asian population percentage was 8%. The DC metro area Asian population percentage was 10.3% in 2019. So I believe the the OP list is pretty accurate. DC also has many cultural events that celebrate East Asian American culture. The Japanese Cherry Blossom Festivities in the Spring, and the Chinese New Year celebration in the winter are two of the most prominent annual events in DC.
Yes but much of that isn't EAST asian.

The Japanese Cherry Blossoms??? Really lol
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Old 07-28-2021, 07:33 AM
 
Location: 415->916->602
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Sacramento belongs on the list. Top 4 actually...

Unless you're grouping all of Northern California together
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Old 07-28-2021, 07:33 AM
 
Location: Baltimore
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Care to try and prove it?

I thought of one way - enclaves are probably hard to get census data on, but I figure that zip codes may be the closest definitions that exist.

However if a zip code is very sparsely populated, even small groups of a particular identity could be seen as an "enclave" when they really aren't. So, I defined a "potential enclave" as any zip code with at least 5,000 people in it. The state of IL has 480 zip codes with more than 5,000 people. Massachusetts has 335.

Which brings me to my next assumption: that most of metro Chicago's East Asian enclaves are probably in IL rather than WI or IN. Likewise, metro Boston's are probably in MA rather than NH or RI. Furthermore, most of IL's East Asian enclaves are probably around Chicago rather than Springfield or Peoria. Likewise, MA's are probably concentrated around Boston rather than Worcester or Springfield.

So here's the data I compiled:





By raw number, MA has more zip codes that have at least 5,000 people and are at least 5% East Asian. Indeed for every percentage above 5%, MA has more zip codes.

By %, MA is ahead from the very beginning.

Here are Illinois' top 10 East Asian zips (sorry for not knowing proper Chitown names):
60616 - 39% - Chicago's Chinatown
*61801 - 17% - Urbana (big enough to meet the criteria unfortunately)
60661 - 16% - West Loop
60192 - 15% - Hoffman Estates
60659 - 15% - northwest of Rosehill Cemetery
60076 - 15% - Skokie
60053 - 14% - Morton Grove
*61874 - 14% - Savoy (guess Urbana-Champaign has a big E. Asian presence?)
60173 - 14% - Schaumburg
60062 - 13% - Northbrook

*The next two most East Asian 'Chicago' zips are 60601 (13% - North Loop) and 60061 (13% - Vernon Hills).

Here are Massachusetts' top 10 East Asian zips:
02111 - 44% - Boston's Chinatown
02170 - 39% - Wollaston
01851 - 34% - Lowell Highlands
02171 - 33% - North Quincy
02134 - 22% - Allston
02122 - 19% - Field's Corner
02169 - 19% - Quincy Center
02420 - 19% - East Lexington
02148 - 17% - Malden
01854 - 17% - Downtown Lowell

So anyway....you were saying??
Ranking should be (imo) .... '(City A), (City B)....DC, Houston, Boston, Chicago, Dallas....(City Y), (City Z)'. SD and Honolulu above these 5; Las Vegas below.

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"East Asian" in this case means people from Myanmar, Cambodia, China, the Philippines, Indonesia, Japan, S. Korea, Laos, Malaysia, Mongolia, Taiwan, Thailand, or Vietnam.

I used tables B02015 and B01003 from the census website for the data.
This even looks Dated..

Lexington, MA (pop 33k, 30% Asian) https://censusreporter.org/profiles/...sex-county-ma/
Acton, MA (pop 24k, 26% Asian) https://censusreporter.org/profiles/...sex-county-ma/
Malden MA (pop 61k, 22% Asian) https://censusreporter.org/profiles/...875-malden-ma/
Brookline, MA (60k, 17% Asian) https://censusreporter.org/profiles/...-brookline-ma/
Cambridge MA (119k, 17% Asian) https://censusreporter.org/profiles/...-cambridge-ma/

Trying to say Boston doesn't have Asian enclaves like Chicago is just false. Breeze through Chinatown Quincy or Lowell...there is also a 'little Cambodia' section of Revere MA (a small portionShirley Ave). the Cambodians of Lynn and revere seem to have began to suburbanize in the early 2000s. Still, they are places with Cambodian restaurants, health clinics, and churches and community orgs...
Revere/Lynn Cambodians: https://hwpi.harvard.edu/pluralismar...-community-inc

Also a solid Vietnamese population in Suburban Randolph MA (13-15% out of 40k)

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