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Old 08-03-2021, 07:18 PM
 
Location: Pacific Northwest
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Boston to Cambridge is way way way more
Seamless than Seattle to Bellevue. No comparison whatsoever. Ridiculous argument attempting to equate the proximity of both.
There are direct bus lines, bike paths, and soon to open subway line between downtown Bellevue and downtown Seattle. Bellevue and Seattle are at least in the same administrative county. Is Cambridge in the same county as Boston? No. Yeah Lake Washington is wider and deeper than the Charles River. That’s a circumstance of geography. They are still adjacent cities with same transit system, same courts, same urban growth boundary, same health departments, same business licensing, same taxes and property tax assessment system and same King County administrative government. Sounds much more “seamless” than Cambridge and Boston.

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Old 08-03-2021, 07:27 PM
 
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This pissing match is one of the more juvenile on here.
Just add the sister city for both areas and be done with it.
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Old 08-03-2021, 10:33 PM
 
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There are direct bus lines, bike paths, and soon to open subway line between downtown Bellevue and downtown Seattle. Bellevue and Seattle are at least in the same administrative county. Is Cambridge in the same county as Boston? No. Yeah Lake Washington is wider and deeper than the Charles River. That’s a circumstance of geography. They are still adjacent cities with same transit system, same courts, same urban growth boundary, same health departments, same business licensing, same taxes and property tax assessment system and same King County administrative government. Sounds much more “seamless” than Cambridge and Boston.
Are you being serious? Have you been to Cambridge or Boston before? Bellevue is 10 miles from downtown Seattle. There is no comparison between that and Cambridge/Boston.
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Old 08-03-2021, 10:38 PM
 
Location: New York, NY
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it kinda doesn't make sense to me to even think of Cambridge as separate from Boston lol I mean technically Cambridge is a distinct city, but seriously crossing one of the bridges is just 5min or less by walking lol not to mention that the busy parts are completely integrated except the river...
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Old 08-03-2021, 10:47 PM
 
Location: Bergen County, New Jersey
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There are direct bus lines, bike paths, and soon to open subway line between downtown Bellevue and downtown Seattle. Bellevue and Seattle are at least in the same administrative county. Is Cambridge in the same county as Boston? No. Yeah Lake Washington is wider and deeper than the Charles River. That’s a circumstance of geography. They are still adjacent cities with same transit system, same courts, same urban growth boundary, same health departments, same business licensing, same taxes and property tax assessment system and same King County administrative government. Sounds much more “seamless” than Cambridge and Boston.
Please stop.. you are very wrong here.
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Old 08-04-2021, 12:29 AM
 
Location: La Jolla
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It is extremely poly centric/nodal... just like NYC, Atlanta & Houston. I never said that it's skyline is small because of that.

That said, DT Houston has two supertalls as well, so what's your point? That doesn't mean eithers primary downtowns clusters are anywhere as built up as the cities I've mentioned. Seattle, Philly, Boston & SF tight street grids and zoning which only allow high-rise development in and around their downtowns is what allows them to have these ridiculous numbers despite all being less than half 1/2 the size of LA. LA is not inhibited by those constraints which is why you see high-rises popping all over the city, not just in a 1 or 2 square mile box.

Oh fun fact... I just did the math. LA proper currently "only" has 236 buildings over +200', all of which are not centered around DT. Adding Hollywood & Long Beach would put it just shy of 300.

I rest my case
Houston has one building over 1000 feet.


If we go by the universal definition of skyscraper, a building 492 feet or taller, then yes, nearly all of the skyscrapers in Los Angeles city are within a few mile radius downtown. Hollywood doesn't even have a 300 foot structure, so high rises in general around the city are of course there, but not really as prominent as you imply. You included Long Beach for some reason, another city over 20 miles away.

So going by actual skyscrapers, Los Angeles has considerably more in a smaller area than Philadelphia, Boston, or Seattle and is ahead of San Francisco (31 minus two in Century City and one in the Valley, vs 27 in San Francisco).
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Old 08-04-2021, 04:39 AM
 
Location: Medfid
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This pissing match is one of the more juvenile on here.
Just add the sister city for both areas and be done with it.
Especially since they’re being compared against really large, multi-nodal cities like Houston I guess this makes sense. Still, Bellevue to Seattle (downtown to downtown) seems to be about a 10mi drive. In Boston you can get to Lynn, Quincy, and Waltham in roughly that distance; there are a smattering of 200ft buildings in that area that aren’t in Cambridge or Boston. Though there may only be 1 300ft (Encore).

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If we go by the universal definition of skyscraper, a building 492 feet or taller, then yes, nearly all of the skyscrapers in Los Angeles city are within a few mile radius downtown.

So going by actual skyscrapers, Los Angeles has considerably more in a smaller area than Philadelphia, Boston, or Seattle and is ahead of San Francisco (31 minus two in Century City and one in the Valley, vs 27 in San Francisco).
Boston has 26 using that definition. They’re all located in the same stretch though I guess I don’t really know how the size of central Boston compares to DT LA.

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Old 08-04-2021, 07:49 AM
 
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Especially since they’re being compared against really large, multi-nodal cities like Houston I guess this makes sense. Still, Bellevue to Seattle (downtown to downtown) seems to be about a 10mi drive.
I agree. If we are including multi-nodal cores for some, we might include it for others. But 10 miles does seem a bit far.

Even in Houston The Medical center is just 2 Miles away from the downtown with Midtown in between. Upper Kirby is 3 Miles from Downtown with Montrose between.
Even Uptown is 5 Miles away with Greenway Plaza, Upper Kirby, Montrose, etc between.

So it's still not an apples to apples comparison. Houston may have multiple nodes but it's still in that inner core. Nothing like 10 miles. And going from TMC to Downtown Houston on the train you still pass towers along the way.
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Old 08-04-2021, 09:05 AM
 
Location: 78745
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I wonder how the building boom in Ft Worth is doing. It had a pretty impressive skyline when the population was less than 500,000. Now Ft Worth is closing in on a million and soon to pass Dallas.
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Old 08-04-2021, 09:38 AM
 
Location: Dallas, Texas
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I wonder how the building boom in Ft Worth is doing. It had a pretty impressive skyline when the population was less than 500,000. Now Ft Worth is closing in on a million and soon to pass Dallas.
That FW growth is taking place in far out land that extends into exurbia that is within the city limits of FW. There’s been some smaller scale development downtown with a few high rises, but most new development in the core has been low to mid rise development.
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