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Old 12-27-2023, 02:01 PM
 
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Yeah it is a nice photo.
Love the red trees too
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Old 12-27-2023, 02:37 PM
 
Location: Terramaria
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Austin is now tied with Atlanta, Boston, Las Vegas, and Seattle for most buildings of at least 525 ft. (15) according to the 2024 World Almanac, including under construction buildings. Jersey City, with the Journal Square buildings coming soon, is also in that same tier. All are one ahead of Philadelphia (14) as well as other notable cities including Denver (6), Charlotte (7), Minneapolis (8), and Pittsburgh (8). Only NYC, Chicago, Miami, Houston, Los Angeles, San Francisco, and Dallas have more above this threshold. Its impressive since the oldest of its 15 tallest (including the nine buildings under construction) is the 360 Condominiums (2008).

Nashville is still listed in the "Other Tall Buildings in North America" list with two above 525', but could soon have its own entry (3 is the minimum). Meanwhile, some cities that once had their own entry back when the minimum requirement was 400 feet are Tulsa, Baltimore, Cincinnati, Indianapolis, Jacksonville, Kansas City, San Antonio, Milwaukee, Louisville, Hartford, and Buffalo. Phoenix meanwhile, doesn't even register in the "Other Tall Buildings" category
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Old 12-27-2023, 02:59 PM
 
Location: La Jolla
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Austin is now tied with Atlanta, Boston, Las Vegas, and Seattle for most buildings of at least 525 ft. (15) according to the 2024 World Almanac, including under construction buildings. Jersey City, with the Journal Square buildings coming soon, is also in that same tier. All are one ahead of Philadelphia (14) as well as other notable cities including Denver (6), Charlotte (7), Minneapolis (8), and Pittsburgh (8). Only NYC, Chicago, Miami, Houston, Los Angeles, San Francisco, and Dallas have more above this threshold. Its impressive since the oldest of its 15 tallest (including the nine buildings under construction) is the 360 Condominiums (2008).

Nashville is still listed in the "Other Tall Buildings in North America" list with two above 525', but could soon have its own entry (3 is the minimum). Meanwhile, some cities that once had their own entry back when the minimum requirement was 400 feet are Tulsa, Baltimore, Cincinnati, Indianapolis, Jacksonville, Kansas City, San Antonio, Milwaukee, Louisville, Hartford, and Buffalo. Phoenix meanwhile, doesn't even register in the "Other Tall Buildings" category
Its interesting how "not enough skyscrapers for its metro area size" never seems to be observed for Philadelphia.
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Old 12-27-2023, 03:44 PM
 
Location: Odenton, MD
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Its interesting how "not enough skyscrapers for its metro area size" never seems to be observed for Philadelphia.
Because Philly has a 84 buildings over +300’ and several hundred more in the 1-200’ range.

Elevation can make a 450’ building look taller than a 500’ building so raw building height starts getting really trivial when it comes to real life visual impact

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Old 12-27-2023, 05:36 PM
 
Location: Brooklyn, NY
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Austin is now tied with Atlanta, Boston, Las Vegas, and Seattle for most buildings of at least 525 ft. (15) according to the 2024 World Almanac, including under construction buildings. Jersey City, with the Journal Square buildings coming soon, is also in that same tier. All are one ahead of Philadelphia (14) as well as other notable cities including Denver (6), Charlotte (7), Minneapolis (8), and Pittsburgh (8). Only NYC, Chicago, Miami, Houston, Los Angeles, San Francisco, and Dallas have more above this threshold. Its impressive since the oldest of its 15 tallest (including the nine buildings under construction) is the 360 Condominiums (2008).

Nashville is still listed in the "Other Tall Buildings in North America" list with two above 525', but could soon have its own entry (3 is the minimum). Meanwhile, some cities that once had their own entry back when the minimum requirement was 400 feet are Tulsa, Baltimore, Cincinnati, Indianapolis, Jacksonville, Kansas City, San Antonio, Milwaukee, Louisville, Hartford, and Buffalo. Phoenix meanwhile, doesn't even register in the "Other Tall Buildings" category
Such impressive growth for Austin, in so little time.

I was thinking about this, and for me, here are my ranked top 20 skylines in the US, in late 2023--

20 Nashville - continued boom has catapulted this city from average to top 20. tallest 750' tower is under construction
19 Jersey City - great density--could've ranked higher, but it sort of gets swallowed up by nyc's skyline across the river
18 Portland, OR - looks a lot bigger with a lot of good density. natural setting is incredible
17 Charlotte - beautiful tallest building with a lot of good density. only keeps getting better
16 Austin - this skyline is BOOMING and becoming one of the better overall in the US for mid-sized cities

15 Los Angeles - love the skyline, but should be so much bigger! look forward to seeing more towers
14 Honolulu - the number of buildings in the 300-400 foot range is incredible! good growth continuing against mountains
13 Boston - good skyline downtown and has recently added density with some height
12 Dallas - super original skyline that is grand and glorious--love to see it grow
11 Denver - good downtown cluster for density against a rocky mountain backdrop--beautiful

10 Pittsburgh - one of my favorite mid sized city skylines. The ideal peninsula setting for good density
9 Minneapolis - always liked this skyline, and love to see it add height and more density
8 Miami - fast-growing skyline with super good height and solid density. Too much glass though, in my opinion
7 Philadelphia - a great skyline that is dense and has good height
6 Atlanta - the height and length of the skyline is very impressive. They need more density though

5 Houston - nice dense downtown, with very tall building clusters.
4 Seattle - the density has increased so well the past 10-15 years or so. Good skyline that is getting better
3 Chicago - one of the most aesthetically pleasing skylines with good height and good density
2 San Francisco - stunning setting, with hilly geography and incredible density. Recently adding good height too
1 New York City - iconic, huge, tall, and continuously growing. none of the other cities can catch up

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Old 12-27-2023, 06:39 PM
 
Location: La Jolla
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Because Philly has a 84 buildings over +300’ and several hundred more in the 1-200’ range.

Elevation can make a 450’ building look taller than a 500’ building so raw building height starts getting really trivial when it comes to real life visual impact
IMO, there's no real angle Philly's skyline can be viewed from where it looks impressive or even adequate for a 6 million metro. Even if you go down from skyscraper height to 400 feet it still loses to Seattle, and it shows.

Then it gets even worse as you go down the west coast where you get cities like San Francisco still outbuilding Philadelphia despite seismic zone considerations and rugged terrain.

This seems to be a recurring theme with all the northeast big cities outside of New York. There's always a height restriction, or "if you zoom in and see all these mid rises, look how impressive it is" type of alibi going on over there.
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Old 12-27-2023, 06:52 PM
 
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I think Phillys skyline is adequate for a 6M metro and it is impressive from multiple angles.
I think it's height restrictions made for a nicely dense skyline
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Old 12-27-2023, 10:00 PM
 
Location: Odenton, MD
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IMO, there's no real angle Philly's skyline can be viewed from where it looks impressive or even adequate for a 6 million metro. Even if you go down from skyscraper height to 400 feet it still loses to Seattle, and it shows.
What’s a 6 million metro skyline supposed to look like?

Because I can assure you whatever logic you’re using is largely baseless. Metro size =/= skyline size. That holds true whether it be the US or globally.

Philly’s skyline is best viewed from south (neither pick shows the whole 3 1/2 mile skyline width) nor should we act like it doesn’t have the tallest building outside of NYC & Chicago.

https://centercityphila.org/uploads/....3392.full.jpg

https://i.etsystatic.com/11068985/r/...67316_g15j.jpg

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Then it gets even worse as you go down the west coast where you get cities like San Francisco still outbuilding Philadelphia despite seismic zone considerations and rugged terrain.
Except it’s not.

San Francisco has 3 +100m buildings U/C (Oceanwide Center 1 & 2 and 30 Van Ness)

Philly has 4 +100m buildings U/C (One Dock Street, Jefferson Care Pavillion, 3025 JFK Boulevard & 1620 Sansom Street)

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This seems to be a recurring theme with all the northeast big cities outside of New York. There's always a height restriction, or "if you zoom in and see all these mid rises, look how impressive it is" type of alibi going on over there.
Ugh yeah? They’re all old historic cities with strict zoning/height laws that encourage dense infill development in vast swaths of neighborhood so they don’t have to build insanely tall to densify.

You can list the number of neighborhoods in Charlotte, Nashville or Austin where you can build a +10 story building on your hands, hence why the “have” to build tall(er)
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Old 12-28-2023, 07:28 AM
 
Location: New York City
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Originally Posted by Joakim3 View Post
What’s a 6 million metro skyline supposed to look like?

Because I can assure you whatever logic you’re using is largely baseless. Metro size =/= skyline size. That holds true whether it be the US or globally.

Philly’s skyline is best viewed from south (neither pick shows the whole 3 1/2 mile skyline width) nor should we act like it doesn’t have the tallest building outside of NYC & Chicago.

https://centercityphila.org/uploads/....3392.full.jpg

https://i.etsystatic.com/11068985/r/...67316_g15j.jpg



Except it’s not.

San Francisco has 3 +100m buildings U/C (Oceanwide Center 1 & 2 and 30 Van Ness)

Philly has 4 +100m buildings U/C (One Dock Street, Jefferson Care Pavillion, 3025 JFK Boulevard & 1620 Sansom Street)



Ugh yeah? They’re all old historic cities with strict zoning/height laws that encourage dense infill development in vast swaths of neighborhood so they don’t have to build insanely tall to densify.

You can list the number of neighborhoods in Charlotte, Nashville or Austin where you can build a +10 story building on your hands, hence why the “have” to build tall(er)
You make great points, and objective posters know that Philadelphia has a large & beautiful skyline. It's no secret that Losfrisco doesn't like Philadelphia (it shows in many threads over the years).

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Old 12-28-2023, 11:28 AM
 
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Such impressive growth for Austin, in so little time.

I was thinking about this, and for me, here are my ranked top 20 skylines in the US, in late 2023--

20 Nashville - continued boom has catapulted this city from average to top 20. tallest 750' tower is under construction
19 Jersey City - great density--could've ranked higher, but it sort of gets swallowed up by nyc's skyline across the river
18 Portland, OR - looks a lot bigger with a lot of good density. natural setting is incredible
17 Charlotte - beautiful tallest building with a lot of good density. only keeps getting better
16 Austin - this skyline is BOOMING and becoming one of the better overall in the US for mid-sized cities

15 Los Angeles - love the skyline, but should be so much bigger! look forward to seeing more towers
14 Honolulu - the number of buildings in the 300-400 foot range is incredible! good growth continuing against mountains
13 Boston - good skyline downtown and has recently added density with some height
12 Dallas - super original skyline that is grand and glorious--love to see it grow
11 Denver - good downtown cluster for density against a rocky mountain backdrop--beautiful

10 Pittsburgh - one of my favorite mid sized city skylines. The ideal peninsula setting for good density
9 Minneapolis - always liked this skyline, and love to see it add height and more density
8 Miami - fast-growing skyline with super good height and solid density. Too much glass though, in my opinion
7 Philadelphia - a great skyline that is dense and has good height
6 Atlanta - the height and length of the skyline is very impressive. They need more density though

5 Houston - nice dense downtown, with very tall building clusters.
4 Seattle - the density has increased so well the past 10-15 years or so. Good skyline that is getting better
3 Chicago - one of the most aesthetically pleasing skylines with good height and good density
2 San Francisco - stunning setting, with hilly geography and incredible density. Recently adding good height too
1 New York City - iconic, huge, tall, and continuously growing. none of the other cities can catch up
Atlanta has a tall and long skyline, and it's densifying:
https://www.instagram.com/p/CrVztOrgePz/?hl=en
https://www.instagram.com/p/C1N8mFtu_HF/?hl=en
https://www.instagram.com/p/C1QkJI_OEf-/?hl=en
https://www.instagram.com/p/C1N8mFtu_HF/?hl=en
https://www.instagram.com/p/CyCcLTzuTOi/
https://www.instagram.com/p/C1LNo3aOidF/
https://www.instagram.com/p/CyZk7xiuNsZ/
The city's tallest building in 20 years is currently under construction in midtown (will be around 750 foot tall)

The City in the Forest
https://www.instagram.com/p/CytCTTOunyc/?hl=en
https://www.instagram.com/p/CsBUDZvMkJF/?hl=en

Buckhead itself is a nice skyline:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vfHtAsCjlPc
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