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Old 03-31-2024, 06:47 PM
 
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The dam was broken in the Miami supertall march with the Waldorf Astoria starting construction here are updates on a few of Miami's other tall and supertalls in development

Miami River Bridge complex - 87 stories (1044') + 62 stories (734' connected with sky bridge)https://www.thenextmiami.com/develop...pertall-tower/

Cipriani Residences 80stories (940') https://www.thenextmiami.com/cranes-...te-faa-filing/

Okan Tower - 70 stories (902') https://www.thenextmiami.com/massive...allest-towers/

Dolce&Gabbana Condo/Hotel - 90 stories (1049') https://www.thenextmiami.com/first-l...l-condo-hotel/

Baccarat Residences - 75 stories (848') https://www.thenextmiami.com/900-foo...struction-site

Calle 8 - 65 stories (856' - recently revealed tall but not quite supertall ) https://www.thenextmiami.com/tree-pe...tower-planned/

Tower 36 midtown - 47 stories (635') another recent reveal with the gas station at the site now closed for demolition. https://www.thenextmiami.com/total-d...tower-36-site/

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Similar to Chicago, Miami's geography makes it almost impossible to capture a view that can show the beadth of its entire skyline. Many visit the area, but don 't really see the skyline except fleetingly on the way to Miami Beach to and from the airport unless they make their way off South Beach or are lucky enough to cruise around on the water. At night its undeniably one of the most beautiful. It's definitely a WOW when you're on a huge Cruise ship that makes a 180' turn in the basin in front of Museum Park.
Quick vid showing night shots of several skylines in the Miami area.... at 1:56 mark the 180' cruise ship turn I had mentioned in a previous post



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R1MxSdmJIGo&t=118

Good info in this video listing the tallest under construction 3 months and already a little dated , just ignore the awful AI pronunciation LOL.
What are the tallest towers under construction in Miami in 2024-2030
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4_6wAYE9omo

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Old 04-01-2024, 02:44 PM
 
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The pandemic slowed Chicago's development down a lot, like many other cities, but hit Chicago hard.

Population of Chicago is slowly declining.

A lot of businesses are moving or choosing other cities to expand into. Many sunbelt cities are stealing some of Chicago's thunder: Dallas, Atlanta, Houston, DC, Miami, etc.

Also, Chicago's office vacancy rate is rising, like many cities, due to the remote work environment.
Chicago was once again named the top metro for corporate relocations and expansions for the 11th consecutive year by Site Selection Magazine. Don't let a few Fortune 500 companies fool you. The city is still very much a corporate/industrial behemoth.

https://www.prnewswire.com/news-rele...302076726.html

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Chicago is not a global city like New York, or even Los Angeles-so growth is more limited.
GaWC ranks both Chicago and LA as "Alpha" while most other institutions have them neck-n-neck. I've seen Chicago ranked ahead of L.A. in certain rankings in the past as well. This is surprising and the logic is confusing.
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Old 04-01-2024, 08:37 PM
 
Location: Land of Ill Noise
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There are more than 3 US cities with Supertalls. Philadelphia is the 6th US city to get a super tall.

Timeline of US Cities to get a Super tall:
1. New York Since 1930
2. Chicago - 1969
3. Houston -1982
4. Los Angeles - 1989
5. Atlanta - 1992
6. Philadelphia -2017
7. San Francisco - 2018

8. Miami - 2025*
9. Austin - 2026*
10. OKC - 2026 *****

Would have thought that Dallas and Boston would be on the list before Austin.
John Hancock, at 60 floors.

Anyway, I agree with what you are saying. Especially for Density and Aesthetics, I don't think I would rank Miami ahead of Philly. Miami has a but load of buildings in the pipeline over 800ft but the skyline isn't really dense, and aesthetics is in the eyes of the beholder. I like the more classic look of Philly's, but the water is a nice touch for Miami
Is there a common accepted definition, for a supertall building? Like a minimum number of feet, before a building is considered supertall?

We will see, if that OKC supertall building ever is completed. I'll believe it, if the construction crews ever finish this building from the foundation to the roof.
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Old 04-01-2024, 09:19 PM
 
Location: Odenton, MD
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Is there a common accepted definition, for a supertall building? Like a minimum number of feet, before a building is considered supertall?

We will see, if that OKC supertall building ever is completed. I'll believe it, if the construction crews ever finish this building from the foundation to the roof.
300m or 984'. Granted a good amount of supertalls aren't supertalls by roof height but through architectural elements or spires. The latter of which creates controversy since a lot "spires" are really just antennas with some paint thrown them (i.e. 1 WTC vs. Willis Tower)

NYC
The Bank of America Building
Chrysler Building
New York Times Building

Chicago
Franklin Center (1007')
Two Prudential Plaza (995')

Austin
Waterline U/C

Philly
Comcast Center

SF
Salesforce Tower

LA
Willshire Grand

all also fall into this category.

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Old 04-01-2024, 09:39 PM
 
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Others say 1,000. Generally the idea is a round number.
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Old 04-04-2024, 05:54 AM
 
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The dam was broken in the Miami supertall march with the Waldorf Astoria starting construction here are updates on a few of Miami's other tall and supertalls in development

Miami River Bridge complex - 87 stories (1044') + 62 stories (734' connected with sky bridge)https://www.thenextmiami.com/develop...pertall-tower/

Cipriani Residences 80stories (940') https://www.thenextmiami.com/cranes-...te-faa-filing/

Okan Tower - 70 stories (902') https://www.thenextmiami.com/massive...allest-towers/

Dolce&Gabbana Condo/Hotel - 90 stories (1049') https://www.thenextmiami.com/first-l...l-condo-hotel/

Baccarat Residences - 75 stories (848') https://www.thenextmiami.com/900-foo...struction-site

Calle 8 - 65 stories (856' - recently revealed tall but not quite supertall ) https://www.thenextmiami.com/tree-pe...tower-planned/

Tower 36 midtown - 47 stories (635') another recent reveal with the gas station at the site now closed for demolition. https://www.thenextmiami.com/total-d...tower-36-site/



Quick vid showing night shots of several skylines in the Miami area.... at 1:56 mark the 180' cruise ship turn I had mentioned in a previous post
I really like that D&G rendering, especially the base. I like the classic look. The interiors also look so dreamy.

Miami's ultra luxe grabs all of the attention though. Most city's signature buildings are either office or mixed use with an office component. Miami seems like all residential or a combo with lux hotel. Very flashy but also not everyday people type of stuff.

Miami send to be the only US city outside NY throwing up lux supertalls without an office component. One 90 floor ultra lux residential is quite impressive even if only one is built a decade. But to have more than 5 over 70 floors going up at once is just amazing.

But Miami has a bad housing crisis. It is already a lot more expensive than it's southern peers and ultra lux doesn't address the situation. So even with all the phenomenal growth in tall towers, it's the middle class infill projects that impress me more.

A lot of cities have been easing their urban planning laws to address affordable housing, and it looks like Miami/Dade is one that is fighting hard against pushback to ease restrictions and streamline the permitting process for beefing up residential neighborhoods that previously were sfh only.

Miami is already unlike it's southern peers, but if it can maintain the lux level development AND be as permissive as somewhere like Houston in building denser affordable housing in residential areas then would certainly outclass their southern peers.

The best the other cities can hope for as mega cities are watered down versions of Chicago, but if Miami can boosts it's affordability whole maintaining it's luxury it has the best chance of edging it's way into the premier US mega city category. It's weather and tourism sets it apart
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Old 04-04-2024, 07:38 AM
 
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Any idea what happened with Houston and tower growth? It seems like it was very competitive but it’s been awhile since a new supertall has as built.
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Old 04-04-2024, 08:09 AM
 
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This is great news for Nashville's new pending tallest tower.

The development team just landed full financing in the amount of $232 million to start the tower.

“To emphasize the scale of 1010, the $232.3 million in construction financing is the 5th largest residential construction financing closed in the U.S. over the past 12 months outside of Florida or New York, and the 4th largest residential construction financing closed anywhere in the U.S. during 2024.

https://citynownext.com/2024/04/04/d...-in-nashville/

Once this skyscraper is topped out in roughly 2026, it will elevate Nashville's skyline greatly, adding to that large urban city aesthetic, which is happening rapidly.

The skyscraper will stand 750 feet high and will be 60 stories.
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Old 04-04-2024, 08:14 AM
 
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I really like that D&G rendering, especially the base. I like the classic look. The interiors also look so dreamy.

Miami's ultra luxe grabs all of the attention though. Most city's signature buildings are either office or mixed use with an office component. Miami seems like all residential or a combo with lux hotel. Very flashy but also not everyday people type of stuff.

Miami send to be the only US city outside NY throwing up lux supertalls without an office component. One 90 floor ultra lux residential is quite impressive even if only one is built a decade. But to have more than 5 over 70 floors going up at once is just amazing.

But Miami has a bad housing crisis. It is already a lot more expensive than it's southern peers and ultra lux doesn't address the situation. So even with all the phenomenal growth in tall towers, it's the middle class infill projects that impress me more.

A lot of cities have been easing their urban planning laws to address affordable housing, and it looks like Miami/Dade is one that is fighting hard against pushback to ease restrictions and streamline the permitting process for beefing up residential neighborhoods that previously were sfh only.

Miami is already unlike it's southern peers, but if it can maintain the lux level development AND be as permissive as somewhere like Houston in building denser affordable housing in residential areas then would certainly outclass their southern peers.

The best the other cities can hope for as mega cities are watered down versions of Chicago, but if Miami can boosts it's affordability whole maintaining it's luxury it has the best chance of edging it's way into the premier US mega city category. It's weather and tourism sets it apart
A major issue with Miami's developments is the uncontrolled short-term renting of residential units. These towers are FILLED with Airbnb rentals, which leads to them being half-filled most of the time, and it does nothing to help alleviate the housing crisis. They are literally built with short-term in mind. It looks flashy at night though.
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Old 04-04-2024, 08:15 AM
 
Location: Flawduh
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Once this skyscraper is topped out in roughly 2026, it will elevate Nashville's skyline greatly, adding to that large urban city aesthetic, which is happening rapidly.

The skyscraper will stand 750 feet high and will be 60 stories.
Let's not get over our heads now... There is nothing "large urban city" about Nashville. Not aesthetically either. Come on now...
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