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View Poll Results: Where would you prefer to live?
Alabama 43 39.81%
Indiana 65 60.19%
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Old 09-02-2021, 12:44 PM
 
Location: Alabama
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A degree from Auburn or Alabama carries just as much weight as a degree from IU or Purdue. Don't kid yourself, and I didn't even go to school in Alabama so I'm not biased. They're all big, public research universities.
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I can't find a more recent up to date list than 2017, but if you're selling Alabama and Auburn on being a big research university, then Purdue would absolutely destroy in Alabama and Auburn in that field. In fact in terms of R&D expenditures, Alabama is fourth in state and 179 in the country, Auburn is third in state and 115 nationally. Purdue is 37 nationally.

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Meh, activity in both Auburn and Alabama is a lot higher than Purdue or really any university in Indiana I’m willing to bet, from the frats and sororities to the clubs to the football games, millions and millions tune in to Alabama and Auburn Football every Saturday during the season, willing to bet that’s not the case for anywhere in Indiana
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But that's not what either poster was talking about. Athletics isn't the same as academics.
Let me illustrate the point I was trying to make in my post quoted above with a little scenario:

Student A spends 4 years at Auburn or Alabama, does his best, and takes advantage of every opportunity offered him

Student B spends 4 years at Purdue or Indiana, does his best, and takes advantage of every opportunity offered him

Which student has the built-in advantage or more built-in opportunity for success? I submit that the opportunities for success between Student A and Student B are equal, and there are no built-in advantages from choosing an Indiana school over an Alabama one, or vice versa.

 
Old 09-02-2021, 12:48 PM
 
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Once again, that wasn't what the original posters were debating. I agree that UAB would be in Purdue's class for R&D, but Alabama and Auburn are not.
I think you and I are on 2 separate pages? what specifically are you talking about?
 
Old 09-02-2021, 12:57 PM
 
Location: Englewood, Near Eastside Indy
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Originally Posted by EscAlaMike View Post
Let me illustrate the point I was trying to make in my post quoted above with a little scenario:

Student A spends 4 years at Auburn or Alabama, does his best, and takes advantage of every opportunity offered him

Student B spends 4 years at Purdue or Indiana, does his best, and takes advantage of every opportunity offered him

Which student has the built-in advantage or more built-in opportunity for success? I submit that the opportunities for success between Student A and Student B are equal, and there are no built-in advantages from choosing an Indiana school over an Alabama one, or vice versa.
It probably depends a bit on the degree and the field. Purdue has a well known engineering program. A Purdue engineering degree does carry some weight in that field. A Purdue business degree is probably comparable to most large universities. I went to a so-called "directional" school, and in my experience where you went to college doesn't matter aside from a few specific programs and fields.
 
Old 09-02-2021, 12:58 PM
 
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I think you and I are on 2 separate pages? what specifically are you talking about?
One post mentioned Alabama and Auburn as being big research universities that are on par with Purdue. I mentioned that based on R&D expenditures, that isn't the case. You mentioned that Alabama and Auburn have great football programs and more people view them then Notre Dame (A post that was deleted). I mention that wasn't what the original post was about but even then the more views part wasn't accurate. You then brought in UAB, I then responded with that it is on par with Purdue in R&D, but Alabama and Auburn are not.

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Old 09-02-2021, 01:01 PM
 
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It probably depends a bit on the degree and the field. Purdue has a well known engineering program. A Purdue engineering degree does carry some weight in that field. A Purdue business degree is probably comparable to most large universities. I went to a so-called "directional" school, and in my experience where you went to college doesn't matter aside from a few specific programs and fields.
This exactly. Purdue has great programs. I'm sure Alabama/Auburn have some as well. To most that attend either school, you get what you put into it. But on paper, Purdue has the advantage in academics. Not everything is decided on paper though.
 
Old 09-02-2021, 01:15 PM
 
Location: Mobile,Al(the city by the bay)
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Alabama and Indiana aren't often considered as peers, but both have strong similarities:
  • Both states are considered somewhat boring
  • Both have primate cities that are often the butt of jokes (Naptown/Bombingham)
  • Both have small coastlines (Indiana Dunes/Baldwin County) with legacy industrial port cities (Gary/Mobile)
  • Both have small wooded areas (Hoosier National Forest/Appalachian Alabama) but are otherwise largely flat
  • Both are known for their conservatism
  • Both have moderate and predictable population growth
  • Both have Rust Belts (South Chicago to South Bend vs. Birmingham/Steel Corridor) that still struggle
  • Both were granted statehood within 3 years of each other
  • Both have racing cultures (Indy 500 vs. Talladega)
  • Both market themselves as low cost-of-living/family friendly states
  • Both have famous sports-oriented universities (Purdue/Indiana/Notre Dame vs. Bama/Auburn/Troy)
  • Both lie on the same latitude, with Indiana directly north of Alabama (a straight shot on I-65)
  • Both have extremely upscale, wealthy suburbs (Vestavia Hills/Hoover vs. Fishers/Carmel)
Where would you live?

Refering Birmingham as Bombingham alone shows ignorance and outdated stereotypes.

But anyways it's Alabama the beautiful for me.Better :food, culture , topography, climate, and mix of cities.

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Old 09-02-2021, 02:14 PM
 
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One post mentioned Alabama and Auburn as being big research universities that are on par with Purdue. I mentioned that based on R&D expenditures, that isn't the case. You mentioned that Alabama and Auburn have great football programs and more people view them then Notre Dame (A post that was deleted). I mention that wasn't what the original post was about but even then the more views part wasn't accurate. You then brought in UAB, I then responded with that it is on par with Purdue in R&D, but Alabama and Auburn are not.

Alright excellent, I see what you mean, yes you are right, Notre Dame does get more views than I had anticipated. Very respectable numbers, But I still think Alabama and Auburn has a much higher average views per game, unfortunately couldn't find an average per game viewershipper source, so I have no way of confirming nor denying my claims
 
Old 09-03-2021, 12:33 AM
 
Location: Land of Ill Noise
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Alright excellent, I see what you mean, yes you are right, Notre Dame does get more views than I had anticipated. Very respectable numbers, But I still think Alabama and Auburn has a much higher average views per game, unfortunately couldn't find an average per game viewershipper source, so I have no way of confirming nor denying my claims
I think UAB sometimes has had good college basketball programs? For Indiana, Butler sometimes has good college hoops teams as well. And one year, I remember Butler surprised everyone and made it into the Final Four.

I'm not sure if Alabama has any well known private colleges, that are similar to Butler. Though wouldn't be surprised, if for college football ratings Alabama vs. Auburn does better than any say Indiana University, Purdue, or Notre Dame game. Though I'm sure Notre Dame football game TV ratings, still can be decent at times.
 
Old 09-03-2021, 08:52 AM
 
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School graduates?


Not comparable in the HR exec's mind. It's like comparing a Miles College Graduate to a Rhodes College graduate - it's about who you know in their futures
 
Old 09-03-2021, 10:53 AM
 
Location: Mobile,Al(the city by the bay)
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I think UAB sometimes has had good college basketball programs? For Indiana, Butler sometimes has good college hoops teams as well. And one year, I remember Butler surprised everyone and made it into the Final Four.

I'm not sure if Alabama has any well known private colleges, that are similar to Butler. Though wouldn't be surprised, if for college football ratings Alabama vs. Auburn does better than any say Indiana University, Purdue, or Notre Dame game. Though I'm sure Notre Dame football game TV ratings, still can be decent at times.

Butler maybe known more so regionally.Just as Springhill College which is Alabama's first University and the oldest Jusuit College in the South ,and 3rd oldest in the county. You also have the Cumberland School of law.

Side Bar : Cuba's base ball history and roots can be traced back to Alabama through Springhill College. Actually the Alabama Cuban connection along adds to its culture.

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