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Old 10-13-2021, 02:19 PM
 
Location: Los Altos Hills, CA
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Originally Posted by Boston Shudra View Post
I do always get a kick out of stuff like this.

In 135 square miles, Boston & its neighbors have 1,511,358 people at a density of 11,189. This is a 10.21% (!) population increase compared to 2010 among the cities in the grouping.

Ones used are: Arlington, Belmont, Boston, Brookline, Cambridge, Chelsea, Everett, Malden, Medford, Quincy, Revere, Somerville, Waltham, Watertown, and Winthrop.
Precisely why I included Boston in my list, it's very large and very dense.
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Old 10-13-2021, 02:25 PM
 
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San Francisco has the look and feel of a big city, but in miniature.
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Old 10-13-2021, 04:18 PM
 
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the Boston videos are ancient. Jeeze.
They've built ~180 highrises since 2013 in the City and surrounding between ~200-740'.
The nimby's don't like shadows, so everything is 75' lower than SF/Seattle.
Gonna be a trough in the next 3~5 years across the country.
But ~60 more highrises are in planning or approved in the City and surrounding.

SF/ (tall, dense, BIG, and also long and sprawly)
Miami/ (long, somewhat tall, and ghostly white colored)
Philly (tall/ a bit compact, and rancid/ but improving at its flanks)
Boston/ (dense, all business, but sprawly)

Wicked cute/pretty skylines:
Houston/Dallas/ Hotlanta/ Austin (tall/ a bit or extremely lifeless after 5:30 pm).
"we look down on ya because we're very stuck up. You drive speedboats on big lakes and get drunk after work, while we stand outside the bars freezing our asses off, and if we make it inside, it's probably too late to drink much."

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Old 10-13-2021, 04:54 PM
 
Location: Hyde Park, MA
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Sounds like a lot of People here have not been to Montreal


Most slept on city in North America.
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Old 10-13-2021, 06:44 PM
 
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Miami, hands down.
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Old 10-13-2021, 07:43 PM
 
Location: Bergen County, New Jersey
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Miami, hands down.
Uh no lol
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Old 10-13-2021, 10:39 PM
 
Location: Washington D.C.
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We definitely have to remove the arbitrary borders for Boston and Washington though. DC for example expands on with miles of high rises in its immediate burbs in between tree cover neighborhoods.

Boston:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1E9AsFJdWow&t=24s



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZPnntwLRqp4

DC:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jvcwViDAhxc

The wing is in the way but this video length shows the breadth of high rise development


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RcrhSoeObJM&t=555s
These aerial videos and the previous picture of Philadelphia really highlight how different DC is from Boston and Philadelphia which will only widen as time goes on. Boston and Philadelphia are really smaller residential structured cities. Boston has a lot of small apartment buildings as seen in the aerial with a smaller core of highrise buildings. Philadelphia has rowhouses as far as the eye can see with a core that’s larger than Boston, but still relatively small in comparison to DC. DC doesn’t have skyscrapers, but the urban core of highrise buildings seems to be endless.

The urban core of DC is expanding to RIA and Bryant Street along Rhoad Island Avenue, Ivy City and New City along New York Avenue, and Buzzard Point and the Bridge District along the Anacostia River soon. The aerial view over the coming years will be even longer soon. It makes sense looking at these aerials why Boston and Philadelphia have such high population density. They are really residential cities with tight small buildings or houses which is in direct contrast to DC based on these aerial videos which has way more office sq. footage than Boston and Philadelphia combined. Converting even half of that to residential is going to make downtown DC unmatched outside of NYC by sheer size.
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Old 10-13-2021, 10:56 PM
 
Location: Washington D.C.
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Yep. And to follow up on that point of "DC becoming more suburban faster". Just as the others are pointing to what could be cherry picked or not, the point of DC's intensity going into suburbia could be cherry picked the other direction. Downtown Silver Spring for example is more urban than the DC proper neighborhood it's across the street from, same for Friendship Heights, and other areas along the DC border along Eastern Ave. So you're in essence expanding out into the "suburbs" but it's more dense building and housing than the arbitrary border depending on which side of DC we're talking.
You know, when you think about it, the urban core of DC is expanding towards the northern suburbs. This week alone, the Old Soldiers Home Redevelopment and McMillion Redevelop announced a ground breaking date which when joined with Howard Universities massive redevelopment taking place will create an official “Midtown” or “Midcity” which historically DC has never had.

People think of the urban core as spreading south and west, but it’s spreading north too. The North Capitol Corridor is exploding from New York Avenue all the way to Brookland. Between them all, it will produce over 15,000 new units of multi family housing, millions of sq. feet in medical office space, and multiple hotels.
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Old 10-13-2021, 11:08 PM
 
Location: Los Altos Hills, CA
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San Francisco has the look and feel of a big city, but in miniature.
Yeah, it appears that way in some ways for sure.

The East Bay really lends miles and miles of urban sprawl to SF's argument

I made this 10 years ago...FYI it's about 30 miles from Richmond to Hayward...In 2020, there are 1.1 million living in this pic of the East Bay.

MY PIC dimondpark@imugr

Farther down, here is the 880 freeway near just about at the midpoint between Oakland and San Jose. The drive is more less 40 miles of this...

MY PIC dimondpark@imugr

Just pointing this out to illustrate the unbroken density that now really rings the entire Bay on 3 sides.
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Old 10-13-2021, 11:38 PM
 
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These aerial videos and the previous picture of Philadelphia really highlight how different DC is from Boston and Philadelphia which will only widen as time goes on. Boston and Philadelphia are really smaller residential structured cities. Boston has a lot of small apartment buildings as seen in the aerial with a smaller core of highrise buildings. Philadelphia has rowhouses as far as the eye can see with a core that’s larger than Boston, but still relatively small in comparison to DC. DC doesn’t have skyscrapers, but the urban core of highrise buildings seems to be endless.

The urban core of DC is expanding to RIA and Bryant Street along Rhoad Island Avenue, Ivy City and New City along New York Avenue, and Buzzard Point and the Bridge District along the Anacostia River soon. The aerial view over the coming years will be even longer soon. It makes sense looking at these aerials why Boston and Philadelphia have such high population density. They are really residential cities with tight small buildings or houses which is in direct contrast to DC based on these aerial videos which has way more office sq. footage than Boston and Philadelphia combined. Converting even half of that to residential is going to make downtown DC unmatched outside of NYC by sheer size.
Your entire argument is predicated on the idea that once someone enters West Philly or Charlestown they’ll be like “wow really exited the city there” which is insane.


You just pick the thing DC excels at (8-12 floor buildings) and decided that’s the stick in which you measure how big a city is.


If I decided that multi unit residential buildings is what defines a city. Boston+ would probably be the 2nd biggest city in America simply due to its unique Triple decker vernacular. Or if I said “you need an underwater tunnel to be a real city” Boston would be again 2nd to New York.
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