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Are you suggesting the poster is exaggerating the size of DC with the chosen picture?
Because that only shows like, 1/4 of the core. Yes, one of the 2 pictures are zoomed in. But I don't think the poster ever said they were depicting different areas or multiple areas, etc.
No it's not you can clearly see that the two pictures are the same one is just zoomed in. The middle one is probably the same buildings too just a different angle.
Oops, yeah I was using my phone to look at them so I couldn't tell.
The middle is different vantage point of the 1st/3rd pics but offset to the west so you can see the eastern most fringes of Georgetown neighborhood.
Those pictures show Foggy Bottom, Golden Triangle, Midtown, Logan Circle, and Dupont Circle with the fringes of Georgetown. It does not show any of Penn Quarter, Gallery Place, Mt. Vernon Triangle, Northwest One, NOMA, Union Market, Union Station/H Street, The Wharf, Waterfront Station, Navy Yard/Capital Riverfront, or Buzzard Point.
The pictures I posted represent about 1/4 of DC’s urban core. The actual size of DC’s urban core is about the size of the island of Manhattan at about 20 sq. miles. You can’t even see the White House in those picture which is on the far northwestern edge of DC’s urban core. For reference, these pictures are west of the White House which should give you an example of the scale of DC’s urban core relative to this discussion.
Those pictures show Foggy Bottom, Golden Triangle, Midtown, Logan Circle, and Dupont Circle with the fringes of Georgetown. It does not show any of Penn Quarter, Gallery Place, Mt. Vernon Triangle, Northwest One, NOMA, Union Market, Union Station/H Street, The Wharf, Waterfront Station, Navy Yard/Capital Riverfront, or Buzzard Point.
The pictures I posted represent about 1/4 of DC’s urban core. The actual size of DC’s urban core is about the size of the island of Manhattan at about 20 sq. miles. You can’t even see the White House in those picture which is on the far northwestern edge of DC’s urban core. For reference, these pictures are west of the White House which should give you an example of the scale of DC’s urban core relative to this discussion.
DC's core is about 1/3 of the city's land area? Even after taking into account park land, and SE, and NW DC?
DC's core is about 1/3 of the city's land area? Even after taking into account park land, and SE, and NW DC?
It would include park land too obviously. The national mall is a huge part because it separates the northern downtown areas from the southern downtown areas. Typically in the comparison, I’ve always measured everything south of Columbia Heights, west of the end of H Street/Atlas District, east of Rock Creek Park, and north of the Anacostia and Potomac Rivers.
I think I captured most of what MDAllstar posted pictures of. For clarity on how much of DC was shown. Which I used my fingers on a phone to draw so I left out a bit of Georgetown at the bottom left.
Last edited by Charlotte485; 12-07-2021 at 05:38 PM..
I think I captured most of what MDAllstar posted pictures of. For clarity on how much of DC was shown. Which I used my fingers on a phone to draw so I left out a bit of Georgetown at the bottom left.
Thanks! This is exactly what was shown. It also shows how small the area in the picture was compared to the rest of the D.C.'s urban core which like I said is around the same size as the island of Manhattan.
Honestly, unless someone lives in DC, it's probably impossible to really grasp how large the city has become with all the construction. Downtown is basically three times larger than it was 15 years ago.
The isnt the only factor because I think Houston feels more vast than everywhere but the top 3, but population density is a factor imo.
And I've read and received comments about 10,000 being low density but really if most places dont have that many people living in that supposedly low threshold, maybe it isnt that low after all?
Anyhow the first places that came to mind for me in no order were Houston, Miami, Philadelphia and the Bay Area. That certainly could change as I look further. An area people sleep on in this regard is Boston. I noticed years ago in map comparisons that the Greater Boston fans out over a huge area.
So anyway, a list for your enjoyment courtesy of ChiSoxRox@SSP
2020 Metro Areas(MSA) by Population 10,000+ Per Square Mile
New York: 11,694,534
Los Angeles: 6,611,283
Chicago: 2,614,012
San Francisco: 2,073,127
Philadelphia: 1,580,169
Boston: 1,448,764
Miami: 1,398,475
Washington: 1,230,663
San Diego: 816,530
San Jose: 720,560
Seattle: 505,840
Houston: 495,906
Las Vegas: 441,510
Honolulu: 395,854
Dallas: 390,927
Baltimore: 375,152
Riverside: 339,111
Phoenix: 328,143
Denver: 315,809
Providence: 301,925
Minneapolis: 241,894
Milwaukee: 226,941
Portland: 179,612
Bridgeport: 168,397
Buffalo: 153,098
Oxnard: 152,811
Atlanta: 150,542
Sacramento: 149,401
Detroit: 126,508
Salinas: 116,532
Santa Barbara: 104,916
New Haven: 96,281
New Orleans: 95,502
Pittsburgh: 94,694
Hartford: 87,780
Columbus: 86,536
Allentown: 84,293
Cleveland: 78,607
Austin: 76,408
Trenton: 70,272
Orlando: 67,832
Worcester: 66,488
Stockton: 65,403
Fresno: 64,225
Madison: 63,212
Reading: 61,836
Rochester: 60,997
Albany: 57,733
Springfield, MA: 56,107
St. Louis: 53,286
Poughkeepsie: 48,699
Salt Lake City: 47,020
Cincinnati: 46,615
Lancaster: 46,505
Tampa Bay: 43,634
Santa Cruz: 43,412
Richmond: 40,379
Bakersfield: 36,880
Manchester: 36,655
San Antonio: 33,299
Reno: 33,110
Harrisburg: 32,348
Provo: 31,825
Scranton: 31,525
State College: 28,622
Syracuse: 27,262
Modesto: 26,829
Ann Arbor: 26,580
York: 25,122
Boulder: 22,321
Champaign: 22,271
Charlotte: 21,929
Vallejo: 21,593
Atlantic City: 21,194
90% of the list doesn't maintained 10,000 over 100 sq mi. That's issue with looking at density alone it's not measuring how last a vast place feel or even how vast the density is.
Further more no consideration for daytime population, commuting workers, office and retail space, amount of industrial devolvement etc.
I be interested in knowing the daytime population of in at least 300 to 400 sq mi radius of each city.
Location: That star on your map in the middle of the East Coast, DMV
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I think I captured most of what MDAllstar posted pictures of. For clarity on how much of DC was shown. Which I used my fingers on a phone to draw so I left out a bit of Georgetown at the bottom left.
Correct. Here is an over head shot from Google Earth. That’s really a portion of DC connected to both the West End and Georgetown, but basically that is Foggy Bottom/GWU, The Watergate Hotel, and the area adjacent to the rest of Downtown.
This drone video of DC does a pretty good job of showing how massive and sprawling the urban core is. Go to the 2:00 minute mark to see a very good shot of the size of D.C.'s urban core.
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