Welcome to City-Data.com Forum!
U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Go Back   City-Data Forum > U.S. Forums > General U.S. > City vs. City
 [Register]
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
Reply Start New Thread
 
Old 11-11-2021, 09:13 AM
 
8,858 posts, read 6,859,567 times
Reputation: 8666

Advertisements

Manhattan avenues and Parisian arterials and boulevards are really wide too. Seattle deserves criticism here but we're not alone.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message

 
Old 11-11-2021, 11:48 AM
 
Location: Ga, from Minneapolis
1,348 posts, read 880,768 times
Reputation: 1930
Both Denver and Seattle have areas with no sidewalks in the city limits.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 11-11-2021, 03:33 PM
 
8,858 posts, read 6,859,567 times
Reputation: 8666
Yes, Seattle has a LOT of those. They're in areas the City annexed mid-century after they were already developed, for example most streets north of 85th.

Since then, we've mostly counted on developers to start filling sidewalks in, since any new project is required to add them. The City has focused public money on limited areas like business districts and near schools.

There's been study of a more comprehensive approach. The figure might have been $800 million a decade ago. This is usually contrasted with the tiny amounts available for such things, in part due to a statewide tax revolt a long time ago.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 11-11-2021, 05:18 PM
 
Location: Denver/Atlanta
6,083 posts, read 10,700,318 times
Reputation: 5872
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kaszilla View Post
Both Denver and Seattle have areas with no sidewalks in the city limits.
Like where?
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 11-11-2021, 05:52 PM
 
Location: Ga, from Minneapolis
1,348 posts, read 880,768 times
Reputation: 1930
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mezter View Post
Like where?
Here are some areas in Seattle

https://earth.app.goo.gl/1Fr8PU
https://earth.app.goo.gl/hLLz3B
https://earth.app.goo.gl/RNCdLg
https://earth.app.goo.gl/?apn=com.go...d0hqVGltTXcQAg
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 11-11-2021, 06:00 PM
 
Location: West Seattle
6,376 posts, read 4,995,543 times
Reputation: 8448
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mezter View Post
Like where?
Lake City, where I live, is an especially bizarre example. Despite much of the neighborhood having a very high population density, there are few sidewalks.

https://goo.gl/maps/KniCc9J8LRDNPN3K7
https://goo.gl/maps/faYYgPaDCwtx4hLKA
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 11-11-2021, 06:25 PM
 
1,320 posts, read 866,859 times
Reputation: 2796
Quote:
Originally Posted by mhays25 View Post
Manhattan avenues and Parisian arterials and boulevards are really wide too. Seattle deserves criticism here but we're not alone.
I get your point, but Paris is a very different situation. Most of the wide roads there have something that separates the pedestrians from the vehicles, such as two way bike lanes, dedicated parallel parking sections, or some landscaping barrier. The Champs-Élysées is like 10 lanes wide but is very pleasant to walk on. This street in First Hill is not. I'm not against wide streets in urban areas as long as they are designed well and to accommodate non-vehicle travel.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 11-11-2021, 06:42 PM
 
2,304 posts, read 1,711,779 times
Reputation: 2282
Quote:
Originally Posted by Wile E. Coyote View Post
Not at all. I love the PNW. We love our dead time (I mean down time).
If you're talking about vibrancy and energy, Seattle has a lot more of it than Denver from my experience.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 11-11-2021, 06:51 PM
 
8,858 posts, read 6,859,567 times
Reputation: 8666
True, that's a bad street. We have several that have been turned into stroads despite not being originally built with that sort of width. Another is Denny Way. And Madison intersecting with your example on First Hill.


Lake City really is odd. It's one of those areas north of 85th I'm talking about. The stroad is pretty walkable as its axis, but the sidewalks otherwise just follow recent construction.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 11-11-2021, 08:14 PM
 
Location: Denver/Atlanta
6,083 posts, read 10,700,318 times
Reputation: 5872
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheTimidBlueBars View Post
Lake City, where I live, is an especially bizarre example. Despite much of the neighborhood having a very high population density, there are few sidewalks.

https://goo.gl/maps/KniCc9J8LRDNPN3K7
https://goo.gl/maps/faYYgPaDCwtx4hLKA
I don’t have much experience with Seattle outside downtown and a few surrounding neighborhoods so that’s interesting. But I was moreso wondering about Denver because I can’t really think of too many places I’ve seen that don’t have sidewalks within the city.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Vincent_Adultman View Post
If you're talking about vibrancy and energy, Seattle has a lot more of it than Denver from my experience.
Perhaps but Denver’s no slouch. Not lacking in energy or vibrancy at all.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


Reply
Please update this thread with any new information or opinions. This open thread is still read by thousands of people, so we encourage all additional points of view.

Quick Reply
Message:


Over $104,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > U.S. Forums > General U.S. > City vs. City
Similar Threads

All times are GMT -6.

© 2005-2024, Advameg, Inc. · Please obey Forum Rules · Terms of Use and Privacy Policy · Bug Bounty

City-Data.com - Contact Us - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37 - Top