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Old 10-17-2021, 12:54 AM
 
Location: Louisiana to Houston to Denver to NOVA
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I would agree. Seattle towers over Denver in major company employment. (And skyline, but I digress). The transportation system in Seattle was probably behind Denver for a few decades but now is catching up and now much better than Denver with light rail. Not to say the both cities don’t do a good job in this category, but Seattle seems more aggressive on this path.
Does Seattle have a plan where rail reaches its suburbs in all cardinal directions?
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Old 10-17-2021, 10:47 AM
 
Location: Seattle
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Does Seattle have a plan where rail reaches its suburbs in all cardinal directions?
Unlike Denver, Seattle has a lot of large bodies of water in the metro area. So everything West of Seattle is water, but there have been ferries that take you that way for a long time. The rail expansion in Seattle is pretty extensive and does have plans to go every direction that isn't a huge body of water. See for yourself:

https://www.soundtransit.org/system-expansion
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Old 10-17-2021, 12:37 PM
 
Location: Louisiana to Houston to Denver to NOVA
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Unlike Denver, Seattle has a lot of large bodies of water in the metro area. So everything West of Seattle is water, but there have been ferries that take you that way for a long time. The rail expansion in Seattle is pretty extensive and does have plans to go every direction that isn't a huge body of water. See for yourself:

https://www.soundtransit.org/system-expansion
That's awesome to see. Hopefully the Front Range Passenger Rail keeps moving forward as well.
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Old 10-17-2021, 07:49 PM
 
Location: WA Desert, Seattle native
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Unlike Denver, Seattle has a lot of large bodies of water in the metro area. So everything West of Seattle is water, but there have been ferries that take you that way for a long time. The rail expansion in Seattle is pretty extensive and does have plans to go every direction that isn't a huge body of water. See for yourself:

https://www.soundtransit.org/system-expansion
The population west of Seattle is growing but still rather smallish. There have been plans for long bridges or even tunnels over the past half century, but all have been cancelled due to exorbitant costs. The ferry system probably will remain as the main transportation source for many decades to come.
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Old 10-17-2021, 11:11 PM
 
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Cost and desirability I'd say. Much of it's simple: A bridge over the Sound would risk turning Kitsap County into suburbia, something multiple large constituencies would hate.
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Old 10-18-2021, 03:28 AM
 
Location: West Seattle
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The population west of Seattle is growing but still rather smallish. There have been plans for long bridges or even tunnels over the past half century, but all have been cancelled due to exorbitant costs. The ferry system probably will remain as the main transportation source for many decades to come.
Light rail to Bremerton or Bainbridge over a floating bridge would be pretty wild, albeit impractical since there isn't a huge population over there and the ferries work fine.

After the current plans through 2044 are built out, I'd think Olympia would be the logical next step, down there is one of the fastest growing parts of the metro (although who knows if that'll be true in two and a half decades).
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Old 10-18-2021, 04:53 PM
 
Location: PHX -> ATL
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The population west of Seattle is growing but still rather smallish. There have been plans for long bridges or even tunnels over the past half century, but all have been cancelled due to exorbitant costs. The ferry system probably will remain as the main transportation source for many decades to come.

boats are cooler anyway
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Old 10-19-2021, 05:37 PM
 
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Seattle, but Denver is not far behind.

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boats are cooler anyway
Especially the Seattle ferries of Puget Sound. They are a novelty.
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Old 11-01-2021, 09:54 PM
 
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Light rail to Bremerton or Bainbridge over a floating bridge would be pretty wild, albeit impractical since there isn't a huge population over there and the ferries work fine.

After the current plans through 2044 are built out, I'd think Olympia would be the logical next step, down there is one of the fastest growing parts of the metro (although who knows if that'll be true in two and a half decades).
IMO a floating bridge or a nice span bridge across would really open those areas up to more development and could act as a pressure release valve on the local housing market
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Old 11-01-2021, 10:10 PM
 
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IMO a floating bridge or a nice span bridge across would really open those areas up to more development and could act as a pressure release valve on the local housing market
Seattle vs Denver 2021?-seattlebridge.png

Speaking of the prospect of a bridge, I've seen people online often deride the idea for being impossible due to the span being too long and how it would have to be the longest bridge ever constructed. These are all misinformed views. If you see the pic, that span from Endolyne to Vashon is about 2.5 miles across. The second span after Vashon would be much shorter. To put things in perspective, the Tappan Zee Bridge in NY is over 3 miles long. Personally, I just don't think the Seattle area as a whole has the ambition or drive to pull off such a project even though it's nothing unprecedented. They tend to struggle with getting public works done and even when they get around to doing them it seems like a painfully slow and drawn out process
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