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Old 11-01-2021, 11:30 PM
 
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Whoa. Bad comparison.

Don't look at "bridge length." Look at "span." The Tappan Zee is a series of small spans.

The distance from shore to shore isn't relevant. It's the distance between supports -- that's the real meaning of "span."

The Tappan Zee is nothing like this challenge, by orders of magnitude. Here's another: giant oceangoing ships need to go under the bridge.
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Old 11-01-2021, 11:59 PM
 
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Whoa. Bad comparison.

Don't look at "bridge length." Look at "span." The Tappan Zee is a series of small spans.

The distance from shore to shore isn't relevant. It's the distance between supports -- that's the real meaning of "span."

The Tappan Zee is nothing like this challenge, by orders of magnitude. Here's another: giant oceangoing ships need to go under the bridge.
Wow true. Didn’t realize it was so deep as well. The Hudson is no where near as deep. Yeah there seems to be no no real good alternative to ferries
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Old 11-02-2021, 06:17 AM
 
Location: Pacific Northwest
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Wouldn’t want a bridge across the sound. The ferries work fine and is quite pleasant. Don’t need more suburban sprawl.
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Old 11-02-2021, 10:25 AM
 
Location: Seattle
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Seattle definitely does not want to turn Kitsap into a suburban bedroom county. We have enough of that in Southeast Pierce County and it's terrible for the environment.

We've spent hundreds of millions of dollars to continue growing upwards rather than outwards, limiting the bad land use policies of the 1990s and before, and densifying certain suburbs like Federal Way and Lynnwood. We have a ton of room to grow without effectively annexing (in a land use sense) low density surrounding counties.

I've only been to Denver a couple times, but it always seemed pretty low-key and maybe even a little boring to me. But, I was only there a few days max, compared to the years I've lived in Seattle, so it will always be an unfair comparison for me.

I will say the friend I had who moved to Seattle quickly moved back to Denver, and another friend who moved to Denver quickly left and moved back to the east coast. So, I think both cities are places you either really love, or have a very hard time adjusting to. There doesn't seem to be a lot of "middle ground" type folks that you'd find in a metro like Phoenix or Central Florida.
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Old 11-02-2021, 10:56 AM
 
Location: Louisiana to Houston to Denver to NOVA
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Seattle definitely does not want to turn Kitsap into a suburban bedroom county. We have enough of that in Southeast Pierce County and it's terrible for the environment.

We've spent hundreds of millions of dollars to continue growing upwards rather than outwards, limiting the bad land use policies of the 1990s and before, and densifying certain suburbs like Federal Way and Lynnwood. We have a ton of room to grow without effectively annexing (in a land use sense) low density surrounding counties.

I've only been to Denver a couple times, but it always seemed pretty low-key and maybe even a little boring to me. But, I was only there a few days max, compared to the years I've lived in Seattle, so it will always be an unfair comparison for me.

I will say the friend I had who moved to Seattle quickly moved back to Denver, and another friend who moved to Denver quickly left and moved back to the east coast. So, I think both cities are places you either really love, or have a very hard time adjusting to. There doesn't seem to be a lot of "middle ground" type folks that you'd find in a metro like Phoenix or Central Florida.
Seattle is honestly the same, neither are known for being exciting cities necessarily. But boring is a really weird way to describe these pretty large cities.
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Old 11-02-2021, 11:14 AM
 
Location: Sherrelwood, Colorado
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Seattle is honestly the same, neither are known for being exciting cities necessarily. But boring is a really weird way to describe these pretty large cities.

Honestly it's not the same - based on my time there, Seattle is absolutely more of an active/exciting city than Denver, both in nightlife and things to do. It's more dense, the neighborhoods are more walkable with business/bar districts beyond the core (i.e. Ballard), and the vibe is more cosmopolitan.

Now I wouldn't say Denver is boring, but it's just not in the same league. And for whatever progress Denver is making to add those amenities, Seattle is adding more at faster rate. I wish people here could just appreciate the Front Range for the things we do excel at (better access to mountain towns, more laid back, sunny days/better climate), rather than trying to claim Denver is on the same level of cool, exciting, etc. as Seattle. Tis not.

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Old 11-02-2021, 11:29 AM
 
Location: SLC > DC
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Honestly it's not the same - based on my time there, Seattle is absolutely more of an active/exciting city than Denver, both in nightlife and things to do. It's more dense, the neighborhoods are more walkable with business/bar districts beyond the core (i.e. Ballard), and the vibe is more cosmopolitan.

Now I wouldn't say Denver is boring, but it's just not in the same league. And for whatever progress Denver is making to add those amenities, Seattle is adding more at faster rate. I wish people here could just appreciate the Front Range for the things we do excel at (better access to mountain towns, more laid back, better weather IMO), rather than trying to claim Denver is on the same level of cool, exciting, etc. as Seattle. Tis not.
It’s like some people are on a mission to “humble” Denverites, which is weird. If people think Denver is a cool place then that’s their opinion. Plenty do.
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Old 11-02-2021, 11:33 AM
 
Location: Sherrelwood, Colorado
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It’s like some people are on a mission to “humble” Denverites, which is weird. If people think Denver is a cool place then that’s their opinion. Plenty do.

I never said it wasn't a cool place... But yeah I'd consider myself a humble Denverite, and not the boasting/'it's better here than anywhere else' kind. Every place has its strengths/weaknesses, and I don't see the purpose in sugarcoating it.
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Old 11-02-2021, 11:35 AM
 
Location: SLC > DC
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I never said it wasn't a cool place... But yeah I'd consider myself a humble Denverite, and not the boasting/it's better here than anywhere else kind.
I mean good for you I suppose? I have yet to see anyone boost Denver in this thread.
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Old 11-02-2021, 11:39 AM
 
Location: Sherrelwood, Colorado
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I mean good for you I suppose? I have yet to see anyone boost Denver in this thread.

Spend some time here in Denver, or browse some 'best cities for XYZ' lists; you'll find it.
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