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Old 11-04-2021, 12:14 PM
 
Location: Baltimore
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What I heard happened in the past ten years, was that the drug trade was destabilized.

Owing to its central location and transportation links, Chicago is a hub for the drug trade. Maybe ten years ago the authorities made a concerted effort to take out some higher-ups in the drug trade. This culminated with the arrest of El Chapo.

However that had the side effect of scrambling all of the turf boundaries that the gangs in Chicago had established to control their part of the drug trade. It became a free-for-all as gangs vied for turf and gang members vied to fill power vacuums.
Compound his with the replacement of CHA residents in various housing developments that were dispersed to the south and west side and adjacent suburbs.
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Old 11-15-2021, 10:12 AM
 
Location: Pacific Northwest
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The crime rate is not over publicized. It's reality.

Another University of Chicago student was shot and killed in Hyde Park during an armed robbery this week:
https://www.chicagomaroon.com/articl...-ellis-avenue/

That makes THREE U of C student killings in the past year. If 3 Harvard students were murdered within a year while minding their own businesses in Boston it would make the news as well.

Chicago has a violent crime problem. Admit it first.
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Old 11-15-2021, 11:22 AM
 
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It's just conservative/trumprat bull****. You know how conservative media works: they pick 2 or 3 topics and build a scare campaign around them, with the goal of whipping their followers into a frenzy.
We've all witnessed the outcome: conservatives parroting the same BS until they all sound like they're reading from a script. Then, when you try to engage them with reality, they default to conspiracy theories and start screaming about Deep-State coverups, George Soros...Hillary..etc..
This has been going on for quite some time now. -- Obamas a communist/socialist/Muslim dictator from Kenya. He was coming for our guns. The death panels. Jade-Helm. Hillary Satan worshipping cabals. Covids a hoax. The vaccine makes you magnetic. The election was stolen....ad nauseum.
Chicago is just their current poster boy for what the Democrats are going to turn the country into.
Just like everything else they've pushed for the last 15 years, it's all bull****.
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Old 11-15-2021, 12:01 PM
 
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It’s a very big city and big cities get more attention in general, and it has much much more violent crime than NYC or LA

If anything NYC gets too much crap for it’s crime. Most likely if much safer than whatever midsized city is near a typical American
Well you can’t compare a bigger city to a smaller city and equate that to which is worse,
NYC historically has been just as worse,if not worse than Chicago throughout history. It’s just the policing in New York is no joke compared to Illinois. Now a neighborhood vs neighborhood comparison is much better because like I said the mass population of NYC lowers the crime rate.
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Old 11-15-2021, 12:03 PM
 
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The crime rate is not over publicized. It's reality.

Another University of Chicago student was shot and killed in Hyde Park during an armed robbery this week:
https://www.chicagomaroon.com/articl...-ellis-avenue/

That makes THREE U of C student killings in the past year. If 3 Harvard students were murdered within a year while minding their own businesses in Boston it would make the news as well.

Chicago has a violent crime problem. Admit it first.
But in reality it’s not the worse city, Cities like St Louis & Baltimore make Chicago look like a walk in the park.
Than again it’s all opinion but there’s still bad crime in every city out there.
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Old 11-15-2021, 12:15 PM
 
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But in reality it’s not the worse city, Cities like St Louis & Baltimore make Chicago look like a walk in the park.
Than again it’s all opinion but there’s still bad crime in every city out there.
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2020 stats:

407 murders in NYC
343 murders in LA
774 murders in Chicago

Considering the population size of those cities are in reverse order of that number, Chicago’s crime reputation isn’t exactly overpublicized, unless we’re comparing it to Buffalo or Detroit, and those cities have far less than even 1M people living there.
Now in retrospect it’s all about crime rate, The number for LA are kinda tricky because it has a higher black on black murder rate than Chicago. Plus the majority of the homicides have always been in South L.A.
It’s sad but I think the racial background of each city matters when talking crime statistics.

In New York, the technology is so far advanced that the crime factor isn’t as wild as say SouthSide Chicago or Memphis. Now historically , I’d say Los Angeles has a higher murder rate than Chicago & New York when all of the cities was at their absolute peak. And I could be wrong but I believe Philadelphia is historically worse than all 3.

It’s just a new day in time. But nobody should think New York City ISNT dangerous anymore.
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Old 11-15-2021, 01:43 PM
 
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Now in retrospect it’s all about crime rate, The number for LA are kinda tricky because it has a higher black on black murder rate than Chicago. Plus the majority of the homicides have always been in South L.A.
It’s sad but I think the racial background of each city matters when talking crime statistics.

In New York, the technology is so far advanced that the crime factor isn’t as wild as say SouthSide Chicago or Memphis. Now historically , I’d say Los Angeles has a higher murder rate than Chicago & New York when all of the cities was at their absolute peak. And I could be wrong but I believe Philadelphia is historically worse than all 3.

It’s just a new day in time. But nobody should think New York City ISNT dangerous anymore.
Just to add the Chicago people of Color %.

95% Of Murder Victims In Chicago This Year Are People Of Color

https://dailycaller.com/2020/09/17/m...ration-legend/

95% of the murder victims in Cook County, home of Chicago, are people of color in 2020, according to an announcement from Cook County Medical Examiner’s Office and reported by USA Today.

Keeping it on stats and not merely to keep a Chicago as the only city with this awful NATIONAL UPTICK in crime in cities you do not expect even and never will get such a thread.

Far more to crime than homicides. That is the magic number.

One could say - If White in Chicago. You are safe from a homicide.
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Old 11-15-2021, 02:00 PM
 
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Just to add the Chicago people of Color %.

95% Of Murder Victims In Chicago This Year Are People Of Color

https://dailycaller.com/2020/09/17/m...ration-legend/

95% of the murder victims in Cook County, home of Chicago, are people of color in 2020, according to an announcement from Cook County Medical Examiner’s Office and reported by USA Today.

Keeping it on stats and not merely to keep a Chicago as the only city with this awful NATIONAL UPTICK in crime in cities you do not expect even and never will get such a thread.

Far more to crime than homicides. That is the magic number.

One could say - If White in Chicago. You are safe from a homicide.
I don’t disagree with you, but now when you say people of color are you referring to Non Whites ?

I’m sure there’s a few cities out there that have white on white crime. But the urban cities most definitely have a ratio to ratio concept when you look at the numbers for African Americans & Latino.
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Old 11-15-2021, 02:29 PM
 
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That’s simply not true. White, typically college aged, people are violently assaulted and murdered with relative frequency. What is true is that if you’re White in Chicago you’re overwhelmingly unlikely to be the perpetrator.
You need to post stats. USA Today reported the 95% last year of homicide victims were people of color.

Sourced from the Cook County Examiners office.

According to an announcement from "Cook County Medical Examiner’s Office" and reported by USA Today. This is not the Politics forum any opinion is true and Conspiracy Theories.

Last edited by Chi-town; 11-15-2021 at 02:40 PM..
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Old 11-15-2021, 02:39 PM
 
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Just to add the Chicago people of Color %.

95% Of Murder Victims In Chicago This Year Are People Of Color

https://dailycaller.com/2020/09/17/m...ration-legend/

95% of the murder victims in Cook County, home of Chicago, are people of color in 2020, according to an announcement from Cook County Medical Examiner’s Office and reported by USA Today.

Keeping it on stats and not merely to keep a Chicago as the only city with this awful NATIONAL UPTICK in crime in cities you do not expect even and never will get such a thread.

Far more to crime than homicides. That is the magic number.

One could say - If White in Chicago. You are safe from a homicide.
Cool. So people of color in Chicago are merely just a statistic for the benefit and convenience of a population count towards the size of the city of Chicago by the Census (you would be quick to brag about Chicago being the 3rd largest city with 2.7 million people). You're kind of insinuating that they're not an attribute to the city and their community crime issues should be not be acknowledged and addressed. You're OK with the status quo. You can't be biased and not admit there are issues in cities like Chicago (and many other cities mentioned in this thread). Is Chicago alone in this? As I stated before, of course not. But things still need to be addressed.
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