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Old 12-13-2021, 10:24 PM
 
Location: 32°19'03.7"N 106°43'55.9"W
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While I like California, it's lacking in some key features that I really prefer. The greenery there just isn't the same as it is in the east. Most of the state is kind of brown and dry looking, even in the green parts. Northern California does offer an abundance of greenery, but it's not quite the same as in the east. It's more of a dry green. The east has a wet, humid green appearance that I prefer. The mountains in the east are covered with green, deciduous, bubbly looking trees all over.

California is also lacking in legacy industrial cities and architecture, which I like.

So no, California doesn't have everything, but it does have a lot for sure.
All of this is a fair critique, for someone who wants really a really verdant landscape. But that's not a priority with me. I spent most of my life in New Jersey, and know all about the differences. To me, weather is the most important priority, by far. I crave arid skies, not humid ones.
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Old 12-14-2021, 05:30 AM
 
Location: Born + raised SF Bay; Tyler, TX now WNY
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All of this is a fair critique, for someone who wants really a really verdant landscape. But that's not a priority with me. I spent most of my life in New Jersey, and know all about the differences. To me, weather is the most important priority, by far. I crave arid skies, not humid ones.
I’m with you. I’m more of a desert rat, so when folks cite greenery as something that’s awesome, it kinda falls on deaf ears as far as what I am looking for. I still think New Mexico is my huckleberry, but it wouldn’t take much to flip me to Nevada or Arizona.
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Old 12-14-2021, 09:26 AM
 
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While I like California, it's lacking in some key features that I really prefer. The greenery there just isn't the same as it is in the east. Most of the state is kind of brown and dry looking, even in the green parts. Northern California does offer an abundance of greenery, but it's not quite the same as in the east. It's more of a dry green. The east has a wet, humid green appearance that I prefer. The mountains in the east are covered with green, deciduous, bubbly looking trees all over.

California is also lacking in legacy industrial cities and architecture, which I like.

So no, California doesn't have everything, but it does have a lot for sure.
There are some parts of California that are just as lush and green as anywhere out east. The area around Crescent City gets 55+ inches of rain a year, with some pockets near the Oregon border that average above 100 inches.

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Old 12-14-2021, 10:28 AM
 
Location: The Dirty South.
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Texas.
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Old 12-14-2021, 04:08 PM
 
Location: In the heights
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I dont like the Hamptons. Its not for me. Its like bad nantucket or try hard cape may. Full pass. Only access points are through nyc too which is also a headache.

Jersey Shore anyday

You're dinging it for the communities though, right? The beaches themselves can be quite good and there's a lot of it and a lot of it is south-facing. There's also quite a bit of beaches that are on Long Island and that aren't part of the Hamptons.
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Old 12-14-2021, 10:58 PM
 
Location: Bergen County, New Jersey
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You're dinging it for the communities though, right? The beaches themselves can be quite good and there's a lot of it and a lot of it is south-facing. There's also quite a bit of beaches that are on Long Island and that aren't part of the Hamptons.
Im dinging it for the beaches and communities themselves. There is no draw to LI for me. On top of the meh quality beaches compared to the ones that surround it, the access is terrible for the entirety of Long Island which is unfortunate.

So yeah, adding NJ would bea must to round off NYS.
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Old 12-15-2021, 07:29 AM
 
Location: In the heights
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Im dinging it for the beaches and communities themselves. There is no draw to LI for me. On top of the meh quality beaches compared to the ones that surround it, the access is terrible for the entirety of Long Island which is unfortunate.

So yeah, adding NJ would bea must to round off NYS.
I agree with adding NJ--maybe Pennsylvania while we're at it as the Mid-Atlantic

I guess we differ on Long Island as I really like the variety of beaches in regards to how developed and how packed they are and they've got some really good south-facing ones. Goes from extremely packed at Coney Island and Brighton Beach and the Rockaways to some pretty remote barrier islands. I really like Long Beach the city and the beach. I like New Jersey beaches, too, though. My problem with LI is how sprawling those suburban tracts are and how decimated a lot of the older and more urban centers are. Crazy given how there's such an extensive electrified rail system.
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Old 12-15-2021, 08:12 AM
 
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I dont like the Hamptons. Its not for me. Its like bad nantucket or try hard cape may. Full pass. Only access points are through nyc too which is also a headache.

Jersey Shore anyday

I'm talking about living in New York City. The North American center of the universe. You step on a train at NY Penn to Babylon. That part is an hour 15 minutes. Transfer to the Montauk line. There are stops in every town. Or just get off at Babylon. Fire Island is right there with good bus connections. You can bring a folding bicycle or folding electric bike on any train as luggage.
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Old 12-17-2021, 02:49 PM
 
Location: Bergen County, New Jersey
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I'm talking about living in New York City. The North American center of the universe. You step on a train at NY Penn to Babylon. That part is an hour 15 minutes. Transfer to the Montauk line. There are stops in every town. Or just get off at Babylon. Fire Island is right there with good bus connections. You can bring a folding bicycle or folding electric bike on any train as luggage.
No thanks. Again hard pass. Just to Penn take the train down to Asbury Park or drive an two hours to some real good beaches with great surfing, good food, etc. again, Hamptons have no draw for me. Other parts of LI are okay. Jersey Shore anyday. If i were going to LI, i would just go to Cape Cod.

Most quaint beach Ive been to was the Island Beach State Park. Tough to beat. LI, or most of NE, cant hold a light to that
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Old 12-23-2021, 06:18 PM
 
Location: Arkansas (Eventually Wisconsin)
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Likely Ohio. Seems to have everything I need.
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