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-Built environment and architectural vernacular - Seattle
-Dining Options & nightlife - Seattle, by a significant margin
-Transit options - Seattle (Denver's is only served by bus routes, Seattle has rail/bus with better connections)
-Ease of access to adjacent neighborhoods - Sliiiight edge to Denver here, as it doesn't have a freeway dividing it from another 'hood, but they both are well integrated w/ the fabric of the city (due to being pre-war established neighborhoods). Broadway does act as kind of a barrier from our Cap Hill and the Golden Triange, but less so than crossing I-5.
-Notable attractions (museums? parks?) Seattle, for sure. Denver has the Molly Brown House, which is interesting, but that's about it inside of Cap Hill's boundaries. Denver's best park (IMO) is located in the adjacent Cheeseman Park neighborhood, so not sure if we're counting that, but either way Volunteer Park bests Cheeseman.
Overall it isn't that close - Capitol Hill is one of my favorite neighborhoods in Denver, but Capitol Hill in Seattle is one of my favorite neighborhoods in the country - far more urban, cosmopolitan, with a better layout and more options in every category (except maybe single-family housing types?). I do love the few little neighborhood bars and restaurants tucked into Denver's, on the less traveled thoroughfares, but Broadway and Colfax are not at all enjoyable to stroll along, or sit at a restaurant patio, etc. Broadway in Seattle - through that area anyway - feels like less of an auto sewer and more pedestrian oriented, plus there are vibrant pedestrian nodes like 10th & Pike that don't exist in Denver's.
Seattle's Cap Hill is almost triple the size of Denver's, and Denvers is actually denser at 16,675 people and 27,792/sq mi while Seattle is at 32,144 people and 20,000/sq mi (per wiki). Adding Lincoln Park and maybe Cheeseman Park would get it to around the same size.
plus there are vibrant pedestrian nodes like 10th & Pike that don't exist in Denver's.
I mean Pike is one of the major streets, and Pike and 10th are right next to the Broadway and Pike intersection. Its not separate enough to make a distinction between Broadway and Pike in general. That whole neighborhood kinda benefits from the narrower streets.
Seattle's Cap Hill is almost triple the size of Denver's, and Denvers is actually denser at 16,675 people and 27,792/sq mi while Seattle is at 32,144 people and 20,000/sq mi (per wiki). Adding Lincoln Park and maybe Cheeseman Park would get it to around the same size.
Not really!
Capitol Hill has eight (8!) census tracts with higher residential densities than any tract in Denver.
CH Seattle also has single-family areas, a big park and cemetery, and a large ravine system. But people are talking about the urban part here.
Denser census tracts doesn't make an area more dense overall if the population is more evenly spread and less nodal.
But in this case Census Tracts are a much better measure of density than using the entire neighborhood. Capitol Hill Seattle is very large and includes a big park, cemetery, and ravine where almost no one lives. The urban parts of Capitol Hill still make up a pretty large area and are far denser than anywhere in Denver.
I mean Pike is one of the major streets, and Pike and 10th are right next to the Broadway and Pike intersection. Its not separate enough to make a distinction between Broadway and Pike in general. That whole neighborhood kinda benefits from the narrower streets.
Hes talking about the Northern part of Broadway though (between John and Roy) which is definitely a different thing than the Pike/Pine corridor. Im not sure why he singled out 10th and Pike as a node though. That is definitely part of the broader Pike/Pine corridor.
But in this case Census Tracts are a much better measure of density than using the entire neighborhood. Capitol Hill Seattle is very large and includes a big park, cemetery, and ravine where almost no one lives. The urban parts of Capitol Hill still make up a pretty large area and are far denser than anywhere in Denver.
It's a different way to observe the information but it's not necessarily better. Similar to UA vs MSA or CSA. Since it is very large and contains more open space, that makes it less dense.
Pike and Broadway are nice but they aren't denser than anything in Denver, they are general retail corridors like most cities have.
Seattle's Capitol Hill has eight (8!) census tracts denser than anything in Denver in terms of residents.
Denver's #1 densest tract (residents) would rank #24 in Seattle.
Sometimes statistics matter. Density isn't just about feelings.
Yet, Capitol Hill in Denver is statistically denser than Seattle's. Thats not about feelings.
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