Outside of CA, which Sun Belt city has the most tolerable summer? (crime, compare)

[michaeltx9412]

Probably Raleigh, Charlotte, and Nashville in no particular order. Everything else is terrible. It's just a matter of whether you like it humid or dry...

[jas75]

I don't mind hot summers in general, but some American cities can go too far. My ratings for the season where 10 is perfect, and 0 is truly intolerable:

Phoenix - 1
Miami - 5
Tampa - 5
Austin - 4
Houston - 3
Dallas - 4
Nashville - 6
Charlotte - 7
Atlanta - 7
Raleigh - 6

I've lived in the Austin and Atlanta areas, and the length and intensity of the summers is very different. Not to mention that there are locations within a few hours driving distance of Atlanta that virtually never reach 90 degrees. No such places exist anywhere close to central Texas.

[Thealpinist]

Originally Posted by Space_League

Atlanta summers are fairly mild.

Atlanta has a mild climate and the summers aren't that long. It's still cold here. I wore a winter jacket this morning. It was in the 40s with screaming winds, and even by midday it was still brisk with the wind. Tonight will dip into the 30 and we will get lows in the 40s all week. you get a few days in March/April that touch 80 in the heat of the day. Usually that means it's in the 60s most of the day and 80 for about half an hour around 4pm.

It doesn't typically get hot until May and cools off by October. The hot months are not that humid. Once the temperature hits 85, the humidity tends to plunge. Dew points in the mid 70s, which are exceptionall common in someplace like Tampa, is quite rare in Atlanta and might only happen a handful of times in the entire summer.

Occasionally you will get some truly oppressive hot HUMID days in Atlanta summers with heat indexs 105+ but they are quite rare. It won't happen every summer. Most hot days in Atlanta the low is like 68 at night, not 78. The high is 90 and the heat index is like 93. It's not that humid like Florida, where that 90 degrees will have a heat index of 107.

Nashville is colder than here. Dallas is hotter. Houston is way hotter. Charlotte is about the same.

Atlanta summers are not mild. That is laughable.

[JMatl]

Originally Posted by Thealpinist

Atlanta summers are not mild. That is laughable.

And you know this how?

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Originally Posted by Thealpinist

Atlanta summers are not mild. That is laughable.

Agreed.

Originally Posted by JMatl

And you know this how?

Everything is relative. To people who don't like heat at all, Atlanta is hot as blazes in the summer. I've been there enough times to know that.
To people from Florida or anyone that has a higher tolerance for heat, Atlanta might seem mild.

Maybe not strictly in terms of population, but I still say Albuquerque because it's just as major as some of these other places listed.

[Space_League]

Originally Posted by Thealpinist

Atlanta summers are not mild. That is laughable.

The context of the discussion is sunbelt cities outside of CA. Atlanta may not have the coolest summers in that category, but it is far from the hottest.

Atlanta probably has some of the mildest year-round weather of any cities in that category along with the Triangle and Charlotte (all very similar weather), since you are excluding the truly mild places in Cali . those places out west or up in the mountains with cooler summers also have frigid winters, unlike Atlanta.

[moguldreamer]

It isn't on the list, but St. George, UT is very nice in the summer, lots of sun, with an outdoor lifestyle, not humid & pleasantly warm.

[Space_League]

Originally Posted by moguldreamer

That's a popular misconception. It rarely gets above 115 in AZ & NV.

i don't think there's a single day in the piedmont south i would consider worse than this August day in Vegas:

https://www.wunderground.com/history.../date/2021-8-8

Not even the temps, but the conditions. A 'heat wave' out there does not mean the same thing as here either. A heat wave in Vegas would be like a series of days where the highs never drop below 110. that seems to happen multiple times per year(exception of 2019) and some years there will be multiple 7-10 day streaks of that without even a 108 high or something to break it up

Then Phoenix is even hotter.

For 2020 Phoenix:

First 60+ degree high 1/2
First 70+ degree high: 1/6
First 50+ degree low 1/16
First 60+ degree low 1/20
First 80+ degree high 2/5
First 90+ degree high 2/14
First 70+ degree low 4/25
First 100+ degree high 4/26
First 80+ degree low 5/10
First 110+ degree high 5/29
First 85+ degree low 5/30
30th 100+ degree high 6/14
First 90+ degree low 7/8
First 115+ degree high 7/11
First 95+ degree low 7/13
30th 110+ degree high 8/10

Last 115+ degree high 8/14
Last 90+ degree low 8/28
Last 110+ degree high 9/6
Last 80+ degree low 9/22
Last 100+ degree high 10/16
Last 70+ degree low 11/2
Last 90+ degree high 11/16
Last 60+ degree low 11/22
Last 80+ degree high 12/7
Last 50+ degree low 12/10
Last 70+ degree high 12/27

[ShenardL]

Originally Posted by Thealpinist

Atlanta summers are not mild. That is laughable.

Having lived in Atlanta many years (and some other cities), the summers here are definitely mild compared to other areas around the sunbelt. In 2020 and 2021 there were only a handful of days that were over 90 degrees. The vast majority of the days in an annual year are in the 60s and 70s. The only issue I have with Atlanta weather is the influx of pollen in the Spring and that's mainly due to Atlanta having so many trees. So if you have a lot of allergies it's not the best thing.

[Thealpinist]

Originally Posted by JMatl

And you know this how?

Yes.

The objective numbers speak for themselves. Compared to places and cities that are actually considered "mild" you cannot claim that Atlanta's summer temps are mild by any objective measure.

Maybe compared to other "hot" cities it is considered mild. But calling it Mild in the grand scheme of things is a huge stretch.