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View Poll Results: What combination of cities are better?
Dallas, Texas + San Antonio, Texas 22 33.85%
Houston, Texas + New Orleans, Louisiana 43 66.15%
Voters: 65. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 04-02-2022, 05:08 PM
 
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So tell us sub, what does DFW and SA bring to the table that the other two doesn't?
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Old 04-02-2022, 05:18 PM
 
Location: Houston/Austin, TX
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Sorry, but ports and navigable rivers are just differences in the economies. New Orleans isn't exactly an economic powerhouse comparatively.
Casinos? Outside of Vegas those are just tacky desperate attempts at something to do that generates revenue. .
I'd probably go to the beach the same number of times each year in any of these locations. Basically, once or twice. It's not like it's a long trek from the others anyway.
But hey, this is all just personal opinions and preferences. I happen to think the other two come out on top, all things considered.
You think casinos outside of Vegas don’t generate revenue?
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Old 04-02-2022, 05:32 PM
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So tell us sub, what does DFW and SA bring to the table that the other two doesn't?
I laid out my opinions in my first post.
You guys are right though, New Orleans is the outlier that brings in things the others don't.
It's primarily known as a tourist trap to the outside world.
I generally don't do places like that.
Ultimately, I'm pretty indifferent towards it.

I find DFW to be nicer than Houston all around. More my style, but remember I'm not exactly a fan of Texas cities by any means. Houston is one of my absolute least favorite places I've ever been to hands down.
San Antonio starts to get into that western vibe a bit, and Dallas feels kind of plains-y which I like better than southeast.
So for me, this is a blowout.
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Old 04-02-2022, 05:35 PM
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You think casinos outside of Vegas don’t generate revenue?
They do generate revenue, but it still seems sad that they couldn't come up with anything better.
Louisiana isn't the only sad case, however.
Certainly not something I'd be playing up as an amenity.
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Old 04-02-2022, 06:09 PM
 
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Sub, Dallas and Houston are brothers from a different mother. There isn't much difference between the two. Many people have a preference for one or the other, that's OK. But you say it's a blow out but doesn't say what makes it so. I have examples of why I think the blow out is for the other team and all you responded with was you don't like this and that. If it was a blow out you would at least be able to name a few things that contribute to the blowout. I'm guessing you are just familiar with Dallas and don't know much about the others other than what you have heard.
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Old 04-02-2022, 06:10 PM
 
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They do generate revenue, but it still seems sad that they couldn't come up with anything better.
Louisiana isn't the only sad case, however.
Certainly not something I'd be playing up as an amenity.
You sir. Clearly haven’t been to the Golden Nugget and Lauberge of Lake Charles
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Old 04-02-2022, 07:21 PM
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Sub, Dallas and Houston are brothers from a different mother. There isn't much difference between the two. Many people have a preference for one or the other, that's OK. But you say it's a blow out but doesn't say what makes it so. I have examples of why I think the blow out is for the other team and all you responded with was you don't like this and that. If it was a blow out you would at least be able to name a few things that contribute to the blowout. I'm guessing you are just familiar with Dallas and don't know much about the others other than what you have heard.
I’ve been to Houston and Dallas similar number of times. Lived near San Antonio for a while. Been to New Orleans a couple of times on vacation.
It’s all just my opinion. Like everyone else.

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You sir. Clearly haven’t been to the Golden Nugget and Lauberge of Lake Charles
I am not even remotely a casino person on any level. For my purposes, having them nearby would not be an asset or selling point.
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Old 04-02-2022, 07:35 PM
 
Location: Louisiana to Houston to Denver to NOVA
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I don’t think you can objectively prove this. Personally I did not recognize those church pictures posted by atadytic19 as being in New Orleans. I would recognize the Superdome, but no other architectural structure in New Orleans.

The Alamo is iconic. Books have been written about it and movies have been made about the Battle of the Alamo. I’m actually stunned one of the posters earlier in the thread said he did not recognize the image of the Alamo. Maybe my Texas bias but I would think any American would recognize the Alamo, and the story of the Alamo.

New Orleans may be the more touristy and popular city but when it comes to iconic images I give the nod to San Antonio.
Not many people would recognize a picture of the Alamo and instantly guess it, it looks like a small old building somewhere in the southwest.
Iconic images is easily New Orleans as most people recognize crawfish, bourbon street, jazz, Mardi Gras, creole cottages, streetcars, gumbo, Lil Wayne, Louis Armstrong, creole cuisine, etc. Most people sent even know what the Tower of America's is, hell, I had to look out up.
There isn't a single dish (let alone a while cuisine like Creole), that is distinctive to San Antonio, nor is there a genre of music that was invented there, but I guess the Spurs and Pop are something.
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Literally every city has very cool historic neighborhoods that are worthwhile.
The French Quarter is the primary draw for New Orleans and the only one the average schmo outside the area is going to know about. It's no lightweight, but if I'm comparing it metro to metro with San Antonio for reasons beyond just tourism, San Antonio runs circles around New Orleans.


Again, I thought this was about more than just tourism.

I don't particularly care for anything Texas, but I'll gladly admit the Alamo is pretty recognizable. At least as much as metal railing on balconies.
Tourism aside, San Antonio just has a lot more going for it.
Very cool? Disagree. Very few city's have really cool historic neighborhoods. Every city has them but most aren't interesting compared to the Quarter or St. Augustine.
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They do generate revenue, but it still seems sad that they couldn't come up with anything better.
Louisiana isn't the only sad case, however.
Certainly not something I'd be playing up as an amenity.
Not an amenity? Look I hate casinos but this is just silly. Las Vegas is far far above San Antonio in attractions and is 100% based on casinos. Macau is also a huge destination, larger than Las Vegas and is also based on casinos. Just because you don't like some attribute about a city, doesn't mean you can disregard it.
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Old 04-02-2022, 08:13 PM
 
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As usual, which of the two are better for

Amenities Hou/ NO - No - Amenities being what?

Architecture HOU / NO - Again Architecture? San Antonio is as old as New Orleans. Architecture - Draw
Cost of living HOU/ NO Yes

Crime DAL/ SATx Yes

Culture HOU beats Dal, NOLA beats SATx - Culture why is Houston culture better? I've lived in both. Don't see any big edge really by either. SATX latin culture is as strong as NO's creole/cajun culture.
Diversity HOU/NOLA Houston gives the combo the edge here. DFW and SATX are more diverse than NO.

Downtowns HOU/ NOLA (NOLA beats SA, the other 2 are close)

Food HOU/NOLA by far - Yes but not by far NO doesn't have great variety. Houston does. DFW has better variety than the other two cities.
Friendliness tie I guess - Crime rates say DFW/SATX more friendly lol

Future of those cities IDK - DEFINITELY DFW/SATX. New Orleans drags down its tag team. And Houston's challenges like NO is flooding, crime though not as bad as NO and a less diverse economy than DFW. there have been more Fortune 500 company relocations there than Houston/NO combined in the last 10 years.

Good place to live/visit HOU/NOLA Having lived in Hou and DFW and visited NO/SATX, DFW/SATX are definitely a better combo to live. NOLA is good to visit as the downtown is lively and compact.
Growth. SA has a better outlook than NOLA

Nightlife NOLA carries the team. Nope. Plenty of nightspots in DFW, including two huge casinos within an hour of the northern suburbs that host national acts. Plus, DFW is home to the largest State Fair in the country, two amphitheaters, several comedy clubs and the HQs of Dave & Busters. Now Houston can counter with the Livestock Show & Rodeo. But losing Astroworld hurt family entertainment while DFW is home to the original Six Flags Over TX.

Outdoor activity HOU/NOLA - NO. lol, really what is there to do in NOLA in terms of nature? Fishing? Beach? Never hear about beaches there. Houston has Galveston but hiking? Biking? Galveston beaches aren't the prettiest and neither is the water given ocean currents. Weather, its HUMID as hell anywhere near the Gulf Coast. DFW has lakes all around and one doesn't have to go far to hike or fish. SATX borders the TX Hill Country.

Political views HOU/NOLA

Population density HOU/NOLA Yes because of NO.

Quality of life tie - NO, how you can have this be a tie with much higher crime rates, lower school quality, and fewer job opportunities, that are clearly evident in NO? Houston's economy is more volatile due to the energy sector influence. SATX benefits from its military ties but its reliance on tourism, similar to NO, is problematic. Dallas can make the case for being the strongest.

Skyline HOU/NOLA skyline beats SA TIE between the two groups.

Shopping HOU/NOLA - Nope NO shopping is not gonna offer. DFW is gonna edge out Houston though Houston is really good. C'mon Dallas is homebase to several national retailers, like Neiman Marcus, Penneys, Fossil Watches, Dickeys, Haggar, SATX vs. NO. I'll say tie.

Sports culture HOU/NOLA - No - NO has Saints and Pelicans, the latter can't fill their Arena and the State is subsidizing the operation to keep them from leaving. DFW has all four major sports, the WNBA, and even minor league baseball while HOU has the NFL, NBA and MLB. Not to mention both the PGA and Professional Bowlers Association are both in DFW.


Things to do HOU/NOLA - this is redundant to other things above

Weather The heat index in the summer for Houston, DFW and SA average out to be the same so I would say HOU and NOLA because Dal and SATx have worse winters
Redundancy again but SATX is at the same latitude as Houston and NO, so not sure how you think its worse? Dallas winters are colder for sure but its not like Oklahoma. We're talking maybe a week a year were its best to WFH. Let's talk about HUMIDITY as mentioned earlier for Houston/NO.
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Old 04-02-2022, 08:31 PM
 
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I live in Texas and have barely even heard of Fiesta. Imagine saying Fiesta is a bigger draw than Mardi Gras lol! Fiesta isn’t even as big as the Houston Rodeo, Texas State Fair or SXSW but even those 3 aren’t in the same stratosphere as Mardi Gras as it comes to tourism.
https://people.com/human-interest/ma...thing-to-know/
This says Mardi Gras attendance is 1.5 million. State Fair of TX outdraws that and I'm sure Houston's Livestock Show and Rodeo does as well. Mardi Gras has a longer history but doesn't mean its other events haven't grown to catch it.
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