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View Poll Results: Which is is the fourth city of the Big 4 American cities (NYC, Chicago, LA, ...)
Boston 11 4.10%
Philadelphia 23 8.58%
Washington, DC 88 32.84%
Detroit 2 0.75%
Miami 11 4.10%
Atlanta 4 1.49%
Houston 42 15.67%
Dallas 12 4.48%
San Francisco 70 26.12%
Seattle 5 1.87%
Voters: 268. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 04-13-2022, 11:29 AM
 
Location: That star on your map in the middle of the East Coast, DMV
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This is a bit dated now, all cities have grown. NYC is at $100B now, DC is at $20B, Not sure about all the others.

Largest City budgets (2015)

1. New York - $77.7B
2. Washington, DC - $13B
3. Los Angeles - $8.6B
4. San Francisco - $8.56B
5. Chicago - $7.3B
6. Houston - $5.1B

Philadelphia - $3.95B
Portland, OR - $3.71B
Austin - $3.6B
Baltimore - $3.36B
Dallas - $3.08B
Boston - $2.86B
Nashville - $1.97B
Denver - $1.72B
Kansas City, MO - $1.47B
Oklahoma City - $1.25B
Phoenix - $1.16B
Detroit - $1.1B
St. Louis - $1B
Miami - $913M (not positive on Miami's)
Memphis - $658M
Tulsa - $272M
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Old 04-13-2022, 11:29 AM
 
Location: Medfid
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What does San Francisco proper, not the metro, not the CSA, have within it's city limits that is either an institution based in the city, or something exclusive to that city proper
The OP calls out the Sillicon Valley in conjunction with San Francisco. This has never been about just city proper.

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SF is the financial hub of the West Coast and the tech hub of the world with Silicon Valley south of SF
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Old 04-13-2022, 11:29 AM
 
Location: Los Altos Hills, CA
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Every major big tech firm has offices, or satellite headquarters based in Washington DC. Big tech is not more important than the federal government of the United States. In fact nothing is more important than the federal government of the United States, not even Wall Street. Which is why these guys are surrounding the capital like the National guard with all their tech cronies and have been setting up shop here for decades. The #SiliconValleyofTheEast!
LOL this is so cringeworthy. I'm sorry but the full faith and credit of the American people in the constitution is more important than the federal government, and its the only thing that keeps us together as a country. The power your brag about so arrogantly, is given to you to, by the rest of us. I would just stop talking at this point if I were you.
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Old 04-13-2022, 11:31 AM
 
Location: That star on your map in the middle of the East Coast, DMV
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I wouldn’t say they “count against†DC, they just aren’t the be-all-end-all. Meanwhile, the Bay Area is so much more of a powerhouse economically than the DMV that it outweighs the presence of the Pentagon.
Exaggeration. The difference in the two metro area economies.

4. San Francisco MSA $588B
5. Washington MSA $561B
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Old 04-13-2022, 11:32 AM
 
Location: Houston/Austin, TX
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I pretty much agree with this, although, I personally would put Boston in Tier 2 (and get rid of Tier 3). Then the new Tier 3 would include the combined Tier 4A and 4B (i.e. I think Seattle is as the same level as the other cities in the current 4A).
Yeah Boston as a tier 2B would’ve been better than sitting alone at 3
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Old 04-13-2022, 11:32 AM
 
Location: That star on your map in the middle of the East Coast, DMV
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The OP calls out the Sillicon Valley in conjunction with San Francisco. This has never been about just city proper.
OK so again no answer. Thanks again.
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Old 04-13-2022, 11:37 AM
 
Location: That star on your map in the middle of the East Coast, DMV
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LOL this is so cringeworthy. I'm sorry but the full faith and credit of the American people in the constitution is more important than the federal government, and its the only thing that keeps us together as a country. The power your brag about so arrogantly, is given to you to, by the rest of us. I would just stop talking at this point if I were you.
Regarding institutions based in a city itself. The full faith and credit of the American people aren't an institution. As explained upthread, 700k DC residents are the 1st group of people you should be defending with 0 representation, as far as voting members in Congress, and it's larger than 2 states. You can't be serious.
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Old 04-13-2022, 11:38 AM
 
Location: Los Altos Hills, CA
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The OP calls out the Sillicon Valley in conjunction with San Francisco. This has never been about just city proper.
And the real world doesnt operate that way either.

2020 GDP Combined Statistical Areas and Uncombined MSAS($100B+)
$1 TRILLION+ in Red
$2.052T New York-Newark
$1.250T Los Angeles-Long Beach
$1.101T San Jose-San Francisco-Oakland


$815.757B Washington-Baltimore-Arlington
$711.501B Chicago-Naperville
$674.801B Boston-Worcester-Providence
$552.465B Dallas-Fort Worth
$496.636B Houston-The Woodlands
$493.888B Philadelphia-Reading-Camden
$470.569B Seattle-Tacoma
$464.497B Atlanta-Athens-Sandy Springs
$395.990B Miami-Port St Lucie-Fort Lauderdale
$305.471B Detroit-Warren-Ann Arbor
$291.607B Minneapolis-St Paul
$282.786B Phoenix-Mesa
$269.538B Denver-Aurora
$240.411B San Diego-Chula Vista-Carlsbad MSA
$208.964B Cleveland-Akron-Canton
$202.717B Portland-Vancouver-Salem
$202.009B Orlando-Lakeland-Deltona
$191.107B Charlotte-Concord
$174.715B St Louis-St Charles-Farmington
$171.903B Salt Lake City-Provo-Orem
$169.269B Tampa-St Petersburg-Clearwater MSA
$168.435B Austin-Round Rock-Georgetown MSA
$165.998B Indianapolis-Carmel-Muncie
$165.828B Pittsburgh-New Castle-Weirton
$157.680B Kansas City-Overland Park-Kansas City
$157.358B Sacramento-Roseville
$156.118B Cincinnati-Wilmington-Maysville
$155.399B Columbus-Marion-Zanesville
$151.652B Raleigh-Durham-Cary
$140.476B Nashville-Murfreesboro
$132.994B San Antonio-New Braunfels-Pearsall
$123.033B Milwaukee-Racine-Waukesha
$121.246B Las Vegas-Henderson
$117.488B Hartford-East Hartford
$100.701B Virginia Beach-Norfolk
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Old 04-13-2022, 12:11 PM
 
Location: That star on your map in the middle of the East Coast, DMV
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^^^ As a CSA the Bay Area threatens for 3rd. As a city proper itself, SF is no higher than 5th in terms of importance.
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Old 04-13-2022, 12:14 PM
 
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Say Hello San Jose.... He actually splits Silicon Valley with his legacy neighbor metro..... Metros the world recognizes.

But then.... this being a battle of DC and SF metros and the 2 areas CSA's are pushed ALWAYS on C-D. No other cities really do.

Battle away by CSA....let the slugging continue. Still might be interesting if future recalculations if CSA's have this WFH more alter some?

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