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View Poll Results: Which is is the fourth city of the Big 4 American cities (NYC, Chicago, LA, ...)
Boston 11 4.10%
Philadelphia 23 8.58%
Washington, DC 88 32.84%
Detroit 2 0.75%
Miami 11 4.10%
Atlanta 4 1.49%
Houston 42 15.67%
Dallas 12 4.48%
San Francisco 70 26.12%
Seattle 5 1.87%
Voters: 268. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 05-06-2022, 10:53 PM
 
Location: Los Altos Hills, CA
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NYC is the juggernaut. It's on the same level as London, Shanghai, Johannesburg, Rio, Sydney, and Mexico City. It is the "it" city of North America.

The middle four cities that I mentioned are not the capitals of their respective countries, btw.

Sao Paulo>Rio de Janeiro...by a lot actually as far as economic and political prominence in Brazil.

Pretoria is only 40 miles from Johannesburg and they function more or less as a CSA. I lived in Pretoria East and flew into and out of Tambo all the time, spent much of my time in Sandton, etc. It reminded me a lot of California or Australia.
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Old 05-06-2022, 11:34 PM
 
Location: OC
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How is DC not number 1 over NYC? DC is the Capitol of the most powerful country on earth. NYC is a city within the US.
Cuz dc was the confederate capital
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Old 05-07-2022, 12:16 AM
 
Location: That star on your map in the middle of the East Coast, DMV
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Bro, it's a legit question. If DC can make an argument for why it should be above every other city, then why not NYC? Can't be size because Chicago, Dallas and Houston are also larger metros.
I'd put more precedence on economy, cultural influence, global impact, political influence etc. ahead of MSA population totals. The metros aren't even close the same size physically, which is why the CSA rankings are so much different, due to others like SF or DC having major cities adjacent.

I know this thread OP is rambling a bit, so maybe he/she is just getting at MSA size, but regarding NYC it's still the most imposing city overall. I'd say after that you can start making discussions on which cities carry the most weight in a multitude of factors, and not just pure "metro area" size.

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Cuz dc was the confederate capital
You must mean Richmond, VA.

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Old 05-07-2022, 10:19 AM
 
Location: Pullman->Iowa City
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Sao Paulo>Rio de Janeiro...by a lot actually as far as economic and political prominence in Brazil.

Pretoria is only 40 miles from Johannesburg and they function more or less as a CSA. I lived in Pretoria East and flew into and out of Tambo all the time, spent much of my time in Sandton, etc. It reminded me a lot of California or Australia.
My point still stands.
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Old 05-07-2022, 10:24 AM
 
Location: OC
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You must mean Richmond, VA.
In his eyes it’s dc
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Old 05-07-2022, 10:59 AM
 
Location: Pullman->Iowa City
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Resident you have a point, and I've seen this same argument brought up countless times before, that being said why the hell would NYC get a pass? Wouldn't that propel DC to #1? Shouldn't this discussion be about Chicago vs SF for the #4 spot? My point being is that it's either #1 or it falls to #5 using this criteria, if you or others are willing to give NYC the first spot then you can't use that same argument against SF or any other city.
NYC is the mecca, and still probably more well known than DC
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Old 05-07-2022, 11:10 AM
 
Location: Germantown, Philadelphia
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Mexico City isn't North America.
Mexico is definitely in North America — the only Spanish-speaking country of the three.

Central America begins at Mexico's southern border. And arguably, all of Central America is part of the continent of North America, given that most do not include Panama, its narrowest part, as part of South America. North and South America are the only two continents in the Western Hemisphere, they are joined by the Isthmus of Panama, and Central America isn't an island or a continent of its own.

Therefore...Central America is part of North America too, just as the Middle East (minus Egypt west of the Suez Canal and Red Sea) is part of Asia.
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Old 05-07-2022, 11:16 AM
 
Location: Pullman->Iowa City
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Mexico is definitely in North America — the only Spanish-speaking country of the three.

Central America begins at Mexico's southern border. And arguably, all of Central America is part of the continent of North America, given that most do not include Panama, its narrowest part, as part of South America. North and South America are the only two continents in the Western Hemisphere, they are joined by the Isthmus of Panama, and Central America isn't an island or a continent of its own.

Therefore...Central America is part of North America too, just as the Middle East (minus Egypt west of the Suez Canal and Red Sea) is part of Asia.
actually I like that argument that central america is part of north america.
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Old 05-07-2022, 11:17 AM
 
Location: In a Really Dark Place
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I think you really have to consider San Francisco in the context of the entire bay area, as if it was all one big city, with a lake in the middle of it.
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Old 05-07-2022, 11:46 AM
 
Location: Shelby County, Tennessee
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NYC is the juggernaut. It's on the same level as London, Shanghai, Johannesburg, Rio, Sydney, and Mexico City. It is the "it" city of North America.

The middle four cities that I mentioned are not the capitals of their respective countries, btw.
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Sao Paulo>Rio de Janeiro...by a lot actually as far as economic and political prominence in Brazil.

Pretoria is only 40 miles from Johannesburg and they function more or less as a CSA. I lived in Pretoria East and flew into and out of Tambo all the time, spent much of my time in Sandton, etc. It reminded me a lot of California or Australia.
Pretty Cool to See an African City get a mention with the Big Dogs Like New York and Los Angeles etc for a change.
(looking forward to see how lagos, nairobi and cairo play out in this regard)
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