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View Poll Results: Which is is the fourth city of the Big 4 American cities (NYC, Chicago, LA, ...)
Boston 11 4.10%
Philadelphia 23 8.58%
Washington, DC 88 32.84%
Detroit 2 0.75%
Miami 11 4.10%
Atlanta 4 1.49%
Houston 42 15.67%
Dallas 12 4.48%
San Francisco 70 26.12%
Seattle 5 1.87%
Voters: 268. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 05-13-2022, 05:30 PM
 
Location: BMORE!
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States and countries also combine bids for that sort of thing. You're grasping at tendrils.
Does an average person from SF consider a trip to SJ, or from SJ to Oakland an "out of town" trip?
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Old 05-13-2022, 05:43 PM
 
Location: Medfid
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I feel like Baltimore and San Jose really shouldn’t be THE deciding factor as to which of their neighbors is #4.

Just my opinion..
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Old 05-13-2022, 05:50 PM
 
Location: BMORE!
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I feel like Baltimore and San Jose really shouldn’t be THE deciding factor as to which of their neighbors is #4.

Just my opinion..
I get why San Jose is being pulled in (shared media market, sports teams, Public Transit, consistent urbanity throughout, similar industry).
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Old 05-13-2022, 07:10 PM
 
Location: That star on your map in the middle of the East Coast, DMV
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Baltimore makes stupid decisions daily. Adding DC to bid in anything will turn it to a DC event, while Baltimore will just be used for hotel spillover.

Baltimore is hopeless.
The World Cup games will be happening (if selected) in Baltimore City at M&T Bank stadium. Not in DC. That was part of the deal/plan. A fan fest would happen in DC.
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Old 05-13-2022, 07:12 PM
 
Location: That star on your map in the middle of the East Coast, DMV
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States and countries also combine bids for that sort of thing. You're grasping at tendrils.
lol, sure. I'm literally doing the opposite and posting easily Google-able facts. Which are, the two scenarios in the region's we're discussing are more similar than they are different.

States and other countries? We're talking about two cities 38 miles from one another, sounds like you're the one reaching.

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Old 05-13-2022, 08:04 PM
 
Location: BMORE!
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The World Cup games will be happening (if selected) in Baltimore City at M&T Bank stadium. Not in DC. That was part of the deal/plan. A fan fest would happen in DC.
It's still gonna be a DC event; The Olympics would be even worse. I get it, Baltimore is a DC suburb at this point.
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Old 05-13-2022, 09:34 PM
 
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lol, sure. I'm literally doing the opposite and posting easily Google-able facts. Which are, the two scenarios in the region's we're discussing are more similar than they are different.

States and other countries? We're talking about two cities 38 miles from one another, sounds like you're the one reaching.

You're posting shaky arguments. Including links doesn't change that.


Remember, we're not talking about regional cooperation. We're talking about whether places function as integrated cities.
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Old 05-13-2022, 11:07 PM
 
Location: That star on your map in the middle of the East Coast, DMV
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You're posting shaky arguments. Including links doesn't change that.


Remember, we're not talking about regional cooperation. We're talking about whether places function as integrated cities.
Once again. The point is the scenario is not all that different. I'm not saying the Bay Area isn't more connected overall, it is, but the connection between Balt-DC is largely down played on here to boost the Bay region, and it has to work both ways. With the Bay and the DC-Balt areas, neither are singular MSA metros, they are both at minimum bi-nodal. My prior posts speak for themselves. San Jose is an independent city as is Baltimore. It is not even the same metro area on paper with San Francisco, but you're saying the cities are "integrated". I don't know what else needs to be discussed.

Every link posted was in clear response to your point of "I don't mean "city" as an administrative unit managing its administrative functions. I mean job market, tourism market, media market, developed area, etc. The SF area is nothing like DC/Balt." That was largely debunked by my later posts.

Dancing around the facts makes your point seem all over the place. I've said my peace.

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Old 05-13-2022, 11:20 PM
 
Location: La Jolla
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Does an average person from SF consider a trip to SJ, or from SJ to Oakland an "out of town" trip?
100% yes they do.

Go cruise around SF or Oakland, and try to strike up conversations about visiting San Jose to prove this.
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Old 05-14-2022, 12:31 AM
 
Location: Odenton, MD
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It's still gonna be a DC event; The Olympics would be even worse. I get it, Baltimore is a DC suburb at this point.
You've yet to explain how it will be a DC event...

They are not going to say "liveeeee from DC" as the games are being played in Baltimore.

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