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View Poll Results: Suburban Smackdown! Which suburb is the better of the two?
Brookline, Massachusetts 14 60.87%
Hoboken, New Jersey 9 39.13%
Voters: 23. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 04-12-2022, 09:25 PM
 
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1st of hopefully a series. In Suburban Smackdown!, I compare the suburbs. Comparing cities is boring and many large cities have been compared before so, why don't we spice things up here and compare the suburbs and satellite cities!

Brookline, Massachusetts (suburb of Boston) vs Hoboken, New Jersey (New Jersey suburb of New York City and Jersey City)

Which suburb is better in these categories:

Amenities
Architecture
Cost of living
Crime
Culture
Diversity
Downtown (if it exists)
Food
Friendliness
Future outlook of the suburb
Good place to live/visit
Growth
Nightlife
Outdoor activity
Political views
Population density
Public transportation, otherwise access to the main city
Quality of life
Skyline (if it exists)
Shopping
Things to do
Weather
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Old 04-12-2022, 10:21 PM
 
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Feel like Hoboken will win this pretty easily with this forums strong urban preference. It's one of the most urban cities in the country with beautiful architecture. It's basically the other Brooklyn.

Brookline is also pretty, but in more in a gently rolling leafy way. It's more of an affluent streetcar suburb with a dense portion near Coolidge Corner.

If you want a walkable suburb, go with Brookline. If you want a city feel, go with Hoboken.
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Old 04-13-2022, 06:37 AM
 
Location: Baltimore
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Very different places.

I prefer Hoboken but I like Brookline a lot. I wish more wealthy Boston suburbs were like it. Its really just a nice town/vibe.
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Old 04-13-2022, 06:46 AM
 
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Apples and Oranges.
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Old 04-13-2022, 06:57 AM
 
Location: New York, N.Y.
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Hoboken is an extension of the city for all intents and purposes (JC as well - heck most of Hudson County). Thus not a true suburb in classic sense. So yeah unfair comparison. Hoboken has a density of 60k/sq mile! Granted the city is only one square mile - but boy is it dense.
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Old 04-13-2022, 07:25 AM
 
Location: Hoboken, NJ
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I do think the more apples-to-apples compare for Hoboken would be Cambridge, but that said it's at least an interesting comparison.

Hoboken:
- Much more urban / dense
- Younger with more bars & nightlife (sometimes to it's detriment)
- Better transit connections to NYC than Brookline to Boston (PATH + Ferries vs. Green Line)
- Slightly more affordable

Brookline:
- Has more suburban areas with actual mansions
- Has more dense areas with some restaurants and nightlife, but never approaching density levels of Hoboken
- Lots of transit stops, but green line is slow as molasses
- Highly regraded public schools, making it somewhat of an urban unicorn (with prices to match)

I live in Hoboken, but love Brookline and would live there in a heartbeat if in Boston area.
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Old 04-13-2022, 07:30 AM
 
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I think a more apt comparison to Brookline would be a Main Line suburb like Bryn Mawr. Both gorgeous, old money Northeast suburbs right adjacent to the main city.
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Old 04-13-2022, 07:53 AM
 
Location: Baltimore
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DCB: Brookline has busses and MBTA to Boston, it’s mostly surrounded by Boston neighborhoods physically. It’s better connected to Boston than Hoboken. Brookline has no less than 12 GreeLine MBTA stops

BigCity: much of Brooklines northern 3rd is highly urbanized beyond anything Bryn Mawr.

Brookline:

https://www.google.com/maps/@42.3440...7i13312!8i6656

https://www.google.com/maps/@42.3414...7i13312!8i6656

https://www.google.com/maps/@42.3432...7i16384!8i8192

https://www.google.com/maps/@42.3316...7i16384!8i8192
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Old 04-13-2022, 08:05 AM
 
Location: On the Waterfront
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Originally Posted by BostonBornMassMade View Post
DCB: Brookline has busses and MBTA to Boston, it’s mostly surrounded by Boston neighborhoods physically. It’s better connected to Boston than Hoboken. Brookline has no less than 12 GreeLine MBTA stops

BigCity: much of Brooklines northern 3rd is highly urbanized beyond anything Bryn Mawr.

Brookline:

https://www.google.com/maps/@42.3440...7i13312!8i6656

https://www.google.com/maps/@42.3414...7i13312!8i6656

https://www.google.com/maps/@42.3432...7i16384!8i8192

https://www.google.com/maps/@42.3316...7i16384!8i8192
Didn't realize that. Even still, the built environment as you get closer to Boston proper looks very much like some Main Line suburbs abutting Philly with the beautiful old school and new school mansions, landscaping, etc.
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Old 04-13-2022, 08:19 AM
 
Location: Baltimore
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Didn't realize that. Even still, the built environment as you get closer to Boston proper looks very much like some Main Line suburbs abutting Philly with the beautiful old school and new school mansions, landscaping, etc.
I guess- not really IMO. there’s a lot of very large apartment buildings and very large apartment buildings as well as triple deckers.

Brookline Village and Coolidge corner have a lot of Bryn Mawr look... but there’s some pretty major differences in scale/modernity. I always say it- a lot of what people think is "Boston" is actually Cambridge or Brookline.

https://www.google.com/maps/@42.3505...7i16384!8i8192

https://www.google.com/maps/@42.3494...7i16384!8i8192

https://www.google.com/maps/@42.3487...7i16384!8i8192

Large Modern hotel+ Triple Decker doesnt give me Bryn Mawr: https://www.google.com/maps/@42.3308...7i16384!8i8192

Last edited by BostonBornMassMade; 04-13-2022 at 08:30 AM..
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