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Old 05-02-2022, 07:43 PM
 
Location: Miami (prev. NY, Atlanta, SF, OC and San Diego)
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Not sure about Forbes but Michelin does not take service into consideration as part of its criteria.


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I love the food in LA. The point I was trying to make (and I think mentioned this earlier) is that these lists favor service as well as creativity, quality, etc. LA, to me, has never had good, high quality, restaurant service, and that's held it back.
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Old 05-02-2022, 07:53 PM
 
Location: Full Time: N.NJ Part Time: S.CA, ID
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Not sure about Forbes but Michelin does not take service into consideration as part of its criteria.
I didnt know that - thanks
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Old 05-03-2022, 01:38 PM
 
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The ability to get a *quality* taco or birra taco near a gas station is LA to me. I don’t know how good the Mexican food is because everywhere I go I love Mexican good. I don’t think of any of those other ethnicities at all. Mostly because I just think veggie and Mexican and I can get them everywhere i am anyways. I don’t associate them like I would Cuban for Miami or pierogis for Pittsburgh or crabs for baltimore or New England style seafood with Boston…I’ve seen many people on social media disparage Los Angeles’ food scene.

But Cali or at least LA is known for being a vegan paradise- I just don’t equate it with fine dining—yet. I don’t associate great food with LA or like… nice restaurants in general. I’m ready for the slander. But thats my viewpoint.
San Francisco is arguably the second or third best city in the country for fine dining and its in California. What youre talking about is specific to LA, not the state as a whole.
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Old 05-03-2022, 01:49 PM
 
Location: Baltimore
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San Francisco is arguably the second or third best city in the country for fine dining and its in California. What youre talking about is specific to LA, not the state as a whole.
I said that. I say LA/Los Angeles 4 times in the post, chill.

SF has a totally different rep.
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Old 05-03-2022, 03:12 PM
 
Location: OC
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I think LA has great food personally. California cuisine is a part of every state's fabric imo. I think MIchael's in SM was a big part of it. I understand California is a place that we love to hate, but lack of food quality and quantity, save BBQ, is not a challenge. Whatever you want, it has it and it's better than most states.
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Old 05-03-2022, 03:26 PM
 
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Not sure about Forbes but Michelin does not take service into consideration as part of its criteria.

That's really not true. It's part of the "value for the money" bucket. Lousy service reduces the value for the money.
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Old 05-03-2022, 03:35 PM
 
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Where are all these top tier restaurants in LA you speak of? I think LA tried hard, but its just missing something.

LA has 27 Michelin star restaurants. They're heavily skewed towards Japanese.


A quick Google turns up the 2022 list:
https://www.timeout.com/los-angeles/...ts-los-angeles
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Old 05-03-2022, 06:28 PM
 
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World renowned food mecca? They're not going to give a five star rating to a hot dog food cart, my man.
Chicago has more Michelin star restaurants than Barcelona, and is widely recognized as a top 10-15-20 food city in the world. And the third most James Beard award winners in the US.

But I will say, the hot dog scene IS pretty dope.
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Old 05-03-2022, 08:03 PM
 
Location: Miami (prev. NY, Atlanta, SF, OC and San Diego)
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That's really not true. It's part of the "value for the money" bucket. Lousy service reduces the value for the money.
Not according to Michelin:

https://www.washingtonian.com/2016/1...chelins-stars/

Service, says Michelin, isn’t a factor. We look only at the food” says Michael Ellis, the Michelin Guide’s International Director. “Having said that, we would be not happy if we found three-star food and horrible service. I haven’t experienced that.”

https://elitetraveler.com/finest-din...m-really-works

“Crucially, the anonymous judges are instructed to take no notice of a restaurant’s décor or the service they receive when deciding the star rating.”
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Old 05-03-2022, 08:34 PM
 
Location: Chicago, IL
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World renowned food mecca? They're not going to give a five star rating to a hot dog food cart, my man.
Just because you choose to spend your days shoving glizzies down your gullet, doesn't mean the rest of us do
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