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I've not read the entire thread, but has anyone mentioned Nashville? It's undergoing a building boom with several high-rises and more planned, possibly second only to Austin. Nashville metro is about 2M.
Yes, the search tool in the upper right will help with that. Nashville is booming, but definitely not #2. There is still Chicago, Atlanta, Miami, Seattle, and probably a few others.
And New York is still by far the leader for adding new skyscrapers.
I've not read the entire thread, but has anyone mentioned Nashville? It's undergoing a building boom with several high-rises and more planned, possibly second only to Austin. Nashville metro is about 2M.
Yeah, absolutely! Nashville is on fire with skyscraper and mid-rise development.
The current high interest rates in the market are slowing down all development in most all cities, including Nashville.
However, Nashville has gone from just 12 skyscrapers over 300 feet in 2015, to 34 skyscrapers over 300 feet, in late 2023!!
Very few cities are fortunate enough to see that super rapid growth and development in just 8 years.
I think the change is fast in terms of percentage growth, but all cities making the change to major status grew like that and those two are not close to the top 2 cities in skyscraper construction. 300ft is about 20-25 floors. Those are more infill or connector buildings in major cities so when they go up they don't make the news. Places like NY, Chicago, Houston and Miami probably all built 35+ buildings over 300ft in the last 5 years. In a good year all these cities put up that many in one year.
They are not all that extraordinary in relation to other cities construction when those cities were ~ 2M Houston, SF, and other cities were building tons of 300footers sprinkled in with 400, 500, 600, and even 700fters before they got to 2M people.
A place like Chicago is far from what we would call booming economically, but you would be surprised by how much is still being built. Boston doesn't get talked about a lot because it isn't building supertalls, but at that 20-25 floor infill range, it is building tons.
Dallas too.
150M is probably a better place to start. I think 500-700 ft would be a good marker for booming and 700ft plus sounds like a good benchmark for Trophy.
It's nice to see Nashville and Austin are developing dense skylines, but people need to stop giving the impression that these are 1 and 2 for skyscraper construction. At least frame it in the way that JJ frames it in relation to where it is coming from.
Residential buildings tend to be around 10 feet per level, not including spires. They can go higher if height limits aren't an issue.
Office buildings tend to be more like 13 feet per level.
Why are hospital floor heights so tall?
Memorial Hermann Med Plaza is 28 floors and 430 ft
Texas Children's is 25 floors and 457ft
St Luke's is 29 floors and 477ft
Methodist Outpatient is 26 floors and 527ft
Memorial Hermann Mem City is 35 FL and 542ft
Some of these buildings have spires, but the floor heights are still pretty tall without them. St Luke's height should actually be 440ft as the spires were chopped off about 2 years ago.
Not sure if the difference is made up by the parking podium, but residential in Houston seems to be taller than 10 ft per floor too.
Brava is 46 floors, and 549 ft
2929 Wesleyan is 40 floors and 533 ft
One Park Place is 37 floors and 518ft
The Huntingdon is 34 floors and 503ft
Market Square Tower is 40 floors and 502ft
The floor heights must be floor to ceiling and not floor to floor, cause even the recent office construction is more like 16ft from floor to floor.
Texas Tower is 47 floors and 734ft
609 Main is 49 floors and 757 ft.
These have architectural elements up top, but they don't add much to the height of the building.
Seems like a 300ft building would be between 18 and 25 floors for modern buildings but if they were being built 50 years ago I could see maybe 28 floors.
I think the change is fast in terms of percentage growth, but all cities making the change to major status grew like that and those two are not close to the top 2 cities in skyscraper construction. 300ft is about 20-25 floors. Those are more infill or connector buildings in major cities so when they go up they don't make the news. Places like NY, Chicago, Houston and Miami probably all built 35+ buildings over 300ft in the last 5 years. In a good year all these cities put up that many in one year.
They are not all that extraordinary in relation to other cities construction when those cities were ~ 2M Houston, SF, and other cities were building tons of 300footers sprinkled in with 400, 500, 600, and even 700fters before they got to 2M people.
A place like Chicago is far from what we would call booming economically, but you would be surprised by how much is still being built. Boston doesn't get talked about a lot because it isn't building supertalls, but at that 20-25 floor infill range, it is building tons.
Dallas too.
150M is probably a better place to start. I think 500-700 ft would be a good marker for booming and 700ft plus sounds like a good benchmark for Trophy.
It's nice to see Nashville and Austin are developing dense skylines, but people need to stop giving the impression that these are 1 and 2 for skyscraper construction. At least frame it in the way that JJ frames it in relation to where it is coming from.
For a city the size of Nashville, the growth is absolutely city-changing. To surge from 12 tall buildings to 34 tall buildings in 8 short years, is phenomenal. Same with a city the size of Austin, probably seeing about double Nashville's numbers.
To compare these city sizes to massive cities like NYC, Chicago, Houston, etc, is apples to oranges. NYC consistently puts up 20-30 more new towers annually, it seems--and does not seem to be slowing down much at all.
But yeah, Nashville and Austin are 2 - 2.5 million metros with booming growth in general-but growth that larger metros have seen consistently for decades, like the NYC's, Chicago's, San Fran's, and Miami's of the world, etc.
Oh, I wasn't comparing Nashville to bigger cities currently. I was comparing it to those metros when they were about 2M.
Yes, for the current class of 2M metros Nashville is a standout. But other 2M metros have gone through these growth spurts.
It just means that Austin and Nashville are leaving their peers in the dust.
30 years from now, when the next upstart city is throwing up towers and the youngins start saying that other cities never grow as fast, you will be reminding them that back in your day Nashville was piling them up faster.
Memorial Hermann Med Plaza is 28 floors and 430 ft
Texas Children's is 25 floors and 457ft
St Luke's is 29 floors and 477ft
Methodist Outpatient is 26 floors and 527ft
Memorial Hermann Mem City is 35 FL and 542ft
Some of these buildings have spires, but the floor heights are still pretty tall without them. St Luke's height should actually be 440ft as the spires were chopped off about 2 years ago.
Not sure if the difference is made up by the parking podium, but residential in Houston seems to be taller than 10 ft per floor too.
Brava is 46 floors, and 549 ft
2929 Wesleyan is 40 floors and 533 ft
One Park Place is 37 floors and 518ft
The Huntingdon is 34 floors and 503ft
Market Square Tower is 40 floors and 502ft
The floor heights must be floor to ceiling and not floor to floor, cause even the recent office construction is more like 16ft from floor to floor.
Texas Tower is 47 floors and 734ft
609 Main is 49 floors and 757 ft.
These have architectural elements up top, but they don't add much to the height of the building.
Seems like a 300ft building would be between 18 and 25 floors for modern buildings but if they were being built 50 years ago I could see maybe 28 floors.
Because of all the critical mechanical and electrical necessities needed to run hospital equipment (i.e a lot). Some hospitals even have "floors within the floors" just for maintenance.
While by no means skyscrapers, these are some of Baltimore's for example to drive the point home.
Mercy Hospital - 17 floors / 305'
4MLK (U/C) - 8 floors / ~160'
Roslyn and Leonard Stoler Center for Advanced Medicine (U/C) - 9 Floors / ~150'
Charlotte R. Bloomberg Children's Center - 12 floors / ~200'
CMSC - 12 floors / ~200'
Walter P Carter Center - 12 floors / ~230
Hospital/Medical can by anywhere from 15-20' slab to slab.
Office is usually 13-14' slab to slab.
Residential/Hotel is usually 9-11' slab to slab.
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