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Man, Portland is often underrated, and this thread is Exhibit A. It definitely deserves more votes. They do a nice job of creating livable, human-scale TOD. It might not be as prevalent as it should be, but there's still a pretty good amount.
Agreed. Even the stations in more suburban East Portland (and some of the actual suburbs) have at least some amount of TOD.
I would guess the Mt. Baker, Rainier Beach, International Boulevard, Sea-Tac, and Angel Lake Stations. Othello Station is doing okay. The Beacon Hill and Columbia Stations are doing better. To be fair, the whole area is generally being gentrified, with higher-incomers moving in and lower-incomers being pushed further south, although some areas faster than others. Gangs still trying to hold onto "turf" complicate matters.
Lots of TOD near the U District, Roosevelt, and Northgate Stations, and in anticipation of the opening of the Bellevue Station.
So you walked for miles along a street that is the core artery of 15-40,000 ppsm tracts for 16 miles and saw fewer than 10 people walking around?.
Yes. Maybe you should walk it too. It's an incredibly boring walk for miles and miles where you see like one person or two every once in awhile. It's a core artery for cars, but my neighborhood street in Seattle has ten times more pedestrians on a random block.
So having a light rail station in a 22,000 ppsm neighborhood is bad planning? If they were east coast style houses would that make it all better?
Not sure why this was linked. You dropped the pin right on Westwood Blvd., which in Los Angeles is just another street, but if it were in Seattle it would be their flagship urban concourse.
Not sure why this was linked. You dropped the pin right on Westwood Blvd., which in Los Angeles is just another street, but if it were in Seattle it would be their flagship urban concourse.
I didn't say avoid it.. they're doing just enough TOD, high density projects etc to keep up with demand, but they don't need anymore. LA is plenty gentrified. It's even spilling over to the inland areas making everything more over priced. Although the same could be said about other states.
Man, Portland is often underrated, and this thread is Exhibit A. It definitely deserves more votes. They do a nice job of creating livable, human-scale TOD. It might not be as prevalent as it should be, but there's still a pretty good amount.
It's an assumption based thread, not a fact based thread. How many people outside of the PNW realize that Portland's light rail in nearly 3X the size of Seattle's?
Portland of course, and also San Diego with zero votes. Google hasn't updated the new SD trolley stations which are huge for TOD, but here is a good example of San Diego TOD:
A downtown trolley station integrated into a skyscraper with ground floor retail, across the street from an intermodal train/trolley/commuter train station.
It's an assumption based thread, not a fact based thread. How many people outside of the PNW realize that Portland's light rail in nearly 3X the size of Seattle's?
Seattle's light rail is much faster and functions like a subway and elevated line for the most part. Portland's is more like a street car.
Speaking of the Portland MAX, rode in it a couple of months ago during broad daylight and it was honestly the sketchiest public transit I have ever taken. Way worse than taking the Green Line on the CTA in South Side Chicago at midnight. Seattle no doubt has its issues, but holy moly Portland MAX.
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