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Old 08-12-2022, 03:01 PM
 
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Buffalo-Niagara Falls is the only metro that has a Black population over the national average above D.C. Now if I did this from a city level instead of a metro than it would be a lot more cities above D.C. on the list.
What is interesting is that you have some metros that are even smaller than the 400,000 population cutoff like Trenton, East Stroudsburg-Stroudsburg, Vineland-Bridgeton and Atlantic City are some in the Northeast that meet the percentage criteria.

As mentioned before, there are quite a few that just miss the percentage criteria. Same for some smaller metros in the Midwest.
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Old 08-12-2022, 04:35 PM
 
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With regard to the Black educational attainment data, Huntsville stands out among locations not included in a million plus single or combined metro area. Federal government affiliated organizations, which have a large local presence, tend to employ a relatively diverse professional work force including Black Americans. The area is very distinct from Alabama in general and has little of the disinvestment that is evident in parts of the state's other population centers.
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Old 08-12-2022, 06:08 PM
 
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With regard to the Black educational attainment data, Huntsville stands out among locations not included in a million plus single or combined metro area. Federal government affiliated organizations, which have a large local presence, tend to employ a relatively diverse professional work force including Black Americans. The area is very distinct from Alabama in general and has little of the disinvestment that is evident in parts of the state's other population centers.
It also doesn’t hurt that there are 2 HBCU’s and a decent sized state campus there as well(Oakwood and Alabama A & M, as well as Alabama-Huntsville).
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Old 08-15-2022, 12:41 PM
 
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Buffalo-Niagara Falls is the only metro that has a Black population over the national average above D.C. Now if I did this from a city level instead of a metro than it would be a lot more cities above D.C. on the list.
Another thing I just thought about was how city limits vary and can could have an impact on a list like this in terms of certain aspects. For instance, a city like Buffalo is only 40.38 square miles with about 280,000 people, but you have a city like Greensboro with 300,000 people in 126.5 square miles. Now, imagine if Buffalo was able to annex unincorporated land(which there is none in NY State) into its city limits like cities in NC can. So, that may be something to consider when looking at the city proper information for these cities.
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Old 08-17-2022, 04:06 AM
 
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It's important to keep in mind that the vast majority of black growth is occurring in the South and West, from big cities like Las Vegas and Atlanta to small towns like Killeen, Texas and Goodyear, Arizona. The Northeast and Midwest are losing their black populations fast, the only exception being Minneapolis which is a huge magnet for African refugees. Black Americans have been migrating back to the South for decades now but they're also spreading out West, cities like Seattle and Salt Lake City which are known to be "very White" are now experiencing huge black growth never before seen. North Las Vegas is now more black than Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, which would've been seen as "crazy talk" just 10 years ago.
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Old 08-17-2022, 06:13 AM
 
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It's important to keep in mind that the vast majority of black growth is occurring in the South and West, from big cities like Las Vegas and Atlanta to small towns like Killeen, Texas and Goodyear, Arizona. The Northeast and Midwest are losing their black populations fast, the only exception being Minneapolis which is a huge magnet for African refugees. Black Americans have been migrating back to the South for decades now but they're also spreading out West, cities like Seattle and Salt Lake City which are known to be "very White" are now experiencing huge black growth never before seen. North Las Vegas is now more black than Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, which would've been seen as "crazy talk" just 10 years ago.
This isn’t necessarily true, as many Interior Northeastern and Midwestern areas in this population range are actually seeing black population growth and it includes African Americans. What happens is that some actually come back from those first 2 regions or come from major areas in the Northeast and Midwest to mid sized/smaller areas. In fact, if you look at the city propers, like RedlionJr. mentioned, some those in this range whether they are on the list or not, are in the Northeast and Midwest. Especially considering that many Southern city propers are experiencing gentrification and are becoming more diverse.

North Las Vegas has had a decent black population for a while due to adjacent Nellis Air Force Base, as Las Vegas’ West Side is the historic black section of that city. In fact, North Las Vegas had a higher percentage in 1980, before it boomed: https://s4.ad.brown.edu/projects/div...cityid=3251800

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Old 08-18-2022, 08:51 AM
 
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This isn’t necessarily true, as many Interior Northeastern and Midwestern areas in this population range are actually seeing black population growth and it includes African Americans. What happens is that some actually come back from those first 2 regions or come from major areas in the Northeast and Midwest to mid sized/smaller areas. In fact, if you look at the city propers, like RedlionJr. mentioned, some those in this range whether they are on the list or not, are in the Northeast and Midwest. Especially considering that many Southern city propers are experiencing gentrification and are becoming more diverse.

North Las Vegas has had a decent black population for a while due to adjacent Nellis Air Force Base, as Las Vegas’ West Side is the historic black section of that city. In fact, North Las Vegas had a higher percentage in 1980, before it boomed: https://s4.ad.brown.edu/projects/div...cityid=3251800
Some city propers that have seen growth in their black population in the Northeast and Midwest within metros that are in the population range in the OP.

Albany NY: https://s4.ad.brown.edu/projects/div...cityid=3601000
Schenectady NY: https://s4.ad.brown.edu/projects/div...cityid=3665508
Troy NY: https://s4.ad.brown.edu/projects/div...cityid=3675484

Syracuse NY: https://s4.ad.brown.edu/projects/div...cityid=3673000

Poughkeepsie NY: https://s4.ad.brown.edu/projects/div...cityid=3659641
Middletown NY: https://s4.ad.brown.edu/projects/div...cityid=3647042

Springfield MA: https://s4.ad.brown.edu/projects/div...cityid=2567000

Worcester MA: https://s4.ad.brown.edu/projects/div...cityid=2582000

Portland ME: https://s4.ad.brown.edu/projects/div...cityid=2360545

Bridgeport CT: https://s4.ad.brown.edu/projects/div...?cityid=908000
Danbury CT: https://s4.ad.brown.edu/projects/div...?cityid=918430
Slight growth in Stamford and Norwalk as well, but the percentage has roughly stayed the same.

Waterbury CT(in New Haven metro): https://s4.ad.brown.edu/projects/div...?cityid=980000
Ansonia CT(also in New Haven metro): https://s4.ad.brown.edu/projects/div...?cityid=901150

Middletown CT(Hartford metro): https://s4.ad.brown.edu/projects/div...?cityid=947290
New Britain CT(Hartford metro): https://s4.ad.brown.edu/projects/div...?cityid=950370

Allentown PA: https://s4.ad.brown.edu/projects/div...cityid=4202000
Bethlehem PA: https://s4.ad.brown.edu/projects/div...cityid=4206088
Easton PA: https://s4.ad.brown.edu/projects/div...cityid=4221648

Scranton PA: https://s4.ad.brown.edu/projects/div...cityid=4269000
Wilkes-Barre PA: https://s4.ad.brown.edu/projects/div...cityid=4285152

Grand Rapids MI: https://s4.ad.brown.edu/projects/div...cityid=2634000

Lansing MI: https://s4.ad.brown.edu/projects/div...cityid=2646000

Fort Wayne IN: https://s4.ad.brown.edu/projects/div...cityid=1825000

Madison WI: https://s4.ad.brown.edu/projects/div...cityid=5548000

Des Moines IA: https://s4.ad.brown.edu/projects/div...cityid=1921000

Wichita KS: https://s4.ad.brown.edu/projects/div...cityid=2079000

Omaha NE: https://s4.ad.brown.edu/projects/div...cityid=3137000

I'll stop there and there are probably others, but this gives an idea of city propers of mid sized metros that have seen growth in their black population over time in both of these regions.

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Old 08-18-2022, 01:39 PM
 
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^Some others...

Niagara Falls NY: https://s4.ad.brown.edu/projects/div...cityid=3651055

Canton OH: https://s4.ad.brown.edu/projects/div...cityid=3912000

Manchester NH: https://s4.ad.brown.edu/projects/div...cityid=3345140

Peoria IL: https://s4.ad.brown.edu/projects/div...cityid=1759000
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Old 08-18-2022, 02:39 PM
 
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Just to add, Vallejo has the highest black median household income out of the areas listed, with Raleigh being second and Richmond third(Poughkeepsie would be only behind Vallejo, if included, but Vallejo isn't a top 100 metro in population): https://data.census.gov/cedsci/table...5Y2020.B19013B
I wouldn't be quick to recommend Vallejo to anyone, though, being the 7th highest crime city in the state, behind only Stockton, San Bernardino, Oakland, Compton, Richmond, and Lancaster.

https://www.spolinlaw.com/criminal-d...in-california/
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Old 08-18-2022, 02:49 PM
 
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I wouldn't be quick to recommend Vallejo to anyone, though, being the 7th highest crime city in the state, behind only Stockton, San Bernardino, Oakland, Compton, Richmond, and Lancaster.

https://www.spolinlaw.com/criminal-d...in-california/
You do have the rest of the metro area, which fits the original criteria and the area does have one of the higher black median and family incomes in the country. There are likely areas of the city that are better than others as well.

Here are a few other cities in that metro area: https://s4.ad.brown.edu/projects/div...?cityid=623182

https://s4.ad.brown.edu/projects/div...?cityid=681554

https://s4.ad.brown.edu/projects/div...?cityid=675630

So, there are other options within that metro area of a substantial size and/or with a substantial black population.
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