What city has the more urban streetscape: San Antonio or Austin?

[ion475]

Originally Posted by DaBears02

You’re right for sure they are entirely car dependent as most people drive to get to them. Also most residents who live in these developments also own cars and drive pretty much everywhere. CityCentre in Houston like you pointed out also falls under this boat as does Legacy West/The Shops at Legacy in DFW

For the latter, if you compare this:

(Downtown Plano)
https://www.google.com/maps/@33.0196...7i16384!8i8192

To Shops at Legacy:
https://www.google.com/maps/@33.0762...7i16384!8i8192

TBH the latter actually does look semi-urban, typical of suburban mixed-used development. The former being "old core" definitely fits the definition of "urban" more, though (with DART going right to it no less).

Then you have places like Legacy West:
https://www.google.com/maps/@33.0800...7i16384!8i8192

The shops are no different than what you used to find in more upscale suburban mall...Lululemon, Tesla, etc.

But still more urban than this...
https://www.google.com/maps/@33.0266...7i16384!8i8192

The last one is truly definition of Texas suburban .

[SweethomeSanAntonio]

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Originally Posted by ion475

For Austin it's probably the hills with curvy roads which tends to increase tract/lot size and decrease density, especially in that area of Austin just west of Mopac. Suburbia like Round Rock/Pflugerville or Cedar Park/Leander does not look that different from your typical Houston/DFW suburb.

But even northern SA burbs have that hill to make it look somewhat exurban...

Take Stone Oaks (San Antonio):
https://www.google.com/maps/@29.6821...7i13312!8i6656

Vs. Lost Creek (Austin):
https://www.google.com/maps/@30.2818...7i16384!8i8192

Doesn't look too different to me...

P.S. I've lived in SA (near Oakwell Farm so something like 10 mins up the road from Alamo Heights area which is why I'm so familiar with that part of the city) also, and feels meh about it. Went to UT and grew up in Houston and Austin is definitely the only metro area in Texas I enjoyed with those natural beauty.

That being said, if SA grows more good for them - it has to grow now that Houston/DFW/Austin are all getting pricier.

Stone Oak is quite a bit more than just a residential neighborhood. It has a lot of retail, restaurants, hotels, office, medical, and small high rise buildings. The population of Stone Oak is more than 75,000.

Landmark Centre is a brand new mixed use development and at full build out will be something like the Domain or Mueller.

Port San Antonio(15,000 employees)with more than 80 tech and aerospace companies is building a tech/aerospace neighborhood where the new Deloreon HQ will be built. A new tech arena was recently built and plans to build the San Antonio Museum of Science and Technology.

[NDFan]

San Antonio, but both are kinda meh and very touristy feeling.

[Vincent_Adultman]

Within city limits but outside of the downtowns areas, which one has the more urban streetscape?

[NigerianNightmare]

Originally Posted by Vincent_Adultman

Within city limits but outside of the downtowns areas, which one has the more urban streetscape?

Probably San Antonio. Generally denser neighborhoods especially further out (although Austin is adding a lot of density). Also Western Austin is hilly wealthy suburban to the max, so density within the city but West of Monaco drops of a cliff compared to San Antonio in areas that are pretty close to downtown.