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My argument is that Houston is neither conservative or all that liberal (even though it is blue). Rather, its very libertarian.
I think they’re right. Houston and DFW are quite conservative for metros their sizes. Neither voted blue as a metro area until last year. Making them 50-50. Rarely any metro area outside of those two that are 5M+ in population are anything lower 60% Democratic voting in presidential elections.
And on a city level, Houston is much larger than Dallas and covers a much bigger % of its metro. Houston’s urban core is just as liberal as Dallas’ but places in the city limits like Willowbrook are another story.
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I think they’re right. Houston and DFW are quite conservative for metros their sizes. Neither voted blue as a metro area until last year. Making them 50-50. Rarely any metro area outside of those two that are 5M+ in population are anything lower 60% Democratic voting in presidential elections.
And on a city level, Houston is much larger than Dallas and covers a much bigger % of its metro. Houston’s urban core is just as liberal as Dallas’ but places in the city limits like Willowbrook are another story.
Which basically reflects atadytics point earlier.
I agree with all of that, I just tend to view Houston as more libertarian as opposed to conservative or liberal. That’s based on more than voting patterns IMO.
My argument is that Houston is neither conservative or all that liberal (even though it is blue). Rather, its very libertarian.
I actually think that describes Texas in general; immigration aside, it seems to me that Texas conservatives tend to soft-pedal culture-war stuff.
And equally to this point, if Houston is a particularly "conservative" big city, then it's the most "conservative" big city to have elected an openly gay mayor.
I actually think that describes Texas in general; immigration aside, it seems to me that Texas conservatives tend to soft-pedal culture-war stuff.
And equally to this point, if Houston is a particularly "conservative" big city, then it's the most "conservative" big city to have elected an openly gay mayor.
Agree with post paragraphs. But on a metro level, Houston (or DFW) wouldn’t dream of hiring an openly gay or even black mayor in the suburbs. Maybe Austin can by now. In 15 years it may be different though
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Agree with post paragraphs. But on a metro level, Houston (or DFW) wouldn’t dream of hiring an openly gay or even black mayor in the suburbs. Maybe Austin can by now. In 15 years it may be different though
There are suburbs of Houston and DFW that have had black mayors. Plano had one very recently.
Houston and DFW are more racially progressive than Austin so I completely disagree with the idea that somehow suburbs of Austin would be open to a black mayor but DFW and Houston wouldn't be. I think all three would be fine with a black mayor.
My argument is that Houston is neither conservative or all that liberal (even though it is blue). Rather, its very libertarian.
Yes, this is the point. Other big cities are more left-leaning than Houston. Hence, Houston is one of, if not the most conservative big cities. I didn't say that it was overall conservative, just that it is relative to other big cities.
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There are suburbs of Houston and DFW that have had black mayors. Plano had one very recently.
Houston and DFW are more racially progressive than Austin so I completely disagree with the idea that somehow suburbs of Austin would be open to a black mayor but DFW and Houston wouldn't be. I think all three would be fine with a black mayor.
I find the idea that Austin "wouldn't be open to a black mayor" very bizarre. You realize the margins that Obama won Austin by? You think they would vote for a black president but not a mayor? Could it be that Austin just doesn't have many black people, and up to this point have not had a mayoral candidate emerge from that small population?
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Yes, this is the point. Other big cities are more left-leaning than Houston. Hence, Houston is one of, if not the most conservative big cities. I didn't say that it was overall conservative, just that it is relative to other big cities.
Agree with post paragraphs. But on a metro level, Houston (or DFW) wouldn’t dream of hiring an openly gay or even black mayor in the suburbs. Maybe Austin can by now. In 15 years it may be different though
You guys realize that even the far right are putting up candidates like Herschel Walker right? I don't get how you can take any huge group of people in the USA in 2022 and think that they wouldn't dream of electing someone because of sexual orientation or race. Now, are there many gay or black people that both identify with the conservative politics popular in those areas and are also qualified for mayor? Probably not. But to say that people would vote against them purely based on race is pretty gross. I really don't think that's where we are in 2022.
There are suburbs of Houston and DFW that have had black mayors. Plano had one very recently.
Houston and DFW are more racially progressive than Austin so I completely disagree with the idea that somehow suburbs of Austin would be open to a black mayor but DFW and Houston wouldn't be. I think all three would be fine with a black mayor.
Good point I should’ve specified. Fort Bend County is certainly not conservative. While northern Dallas suburbs are trending towards the liberal side. What my point was is that HOU and DFW metros have a much larger share of suburbs that are conservative. I don’t even have to bring them up
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