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The cleanliness of Washington D.C. should not be a factor in how the media addresses its crime problem.
Compton looks like a suburb and is still a poster child for homicides.
Portland and Minneapolis look just as polished as DC and are talked about as if they were a warzone on Fox. Why can't these cities get the DC treatment?
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I'm curious why only DC receives that advantage.
The 'bombed-out' neighborhoods of North Philadelphia are located at a similar distance from Center City as SE DC is from The Capitol or Smithsonian.
Let's keep it fair and consistent. No more mentioning Kensington or Strawberry Mansion, as they are 25 minutes away from Center City. Well out of mind and sight from any visitor or tourist.
Only among people who watch underground rap videos. In reality, no one is really thinking of Compton. And the numbers arent there.
Nothing in DC look remotely like the bolded. This is why it is what it is. Maybe it shouldnt but it does have an impact when youre in DC you dont feel any heightened level of danger. Even SE DC is full of single family homes with yards...
I already responded to you above, but I'll also add this:
I lived in the Bay Area from 2006 until fairly recently and the media almost always overemphasized crime in Oakland, while significantly downplaying it for SF. Now that SF is a hot mess, the media has shifted to doom loop headlines (note: bad news sells!), while simultaneously praising Oakland's Uptown district for being cool and hip. It would be laughable if it weren't so sad and pathetic.
Also Portland's downtown is pretty awful these days, so while I'm not a fan of the hysterics laid out by Fox and friends, there's a large element of truth to the narrative of lawlessness and chaos that's made that particular part of the city so bad.
I repped that reply but forgot to respond.
Judging a city's 'newsworthiness' on crime solely based on its level of cleanliness is misleading and intellectually dishonest. Homicide victims in any city should be given equal importance, regardless of the city's appearance.
That's a fair point about Portland. What about Minneapolis? Despite being a well-maintained city, it's receiving criticism as if it were the second coming of Detroit.
DC and Minneapolis are both extremely tidy, yet only DC is exempt from being scrutinized by the media for its crime even though its crime rate is twice of Minneapolis and Portland.
Only among people who watch underground rap videos. In reality, no one is really thinking of Compton. And the numbers arent there.
Nothing in DC look remotely like the bolded. This is why it is what it is. Maybe it shouldnt but it does have an impact when youre in DC you dont feel any heightened level of danger. Even SE DC is full of single family homes with yards...
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If a tourist is unaware of the rough bombed-out neighborhoods in Philadelphia and is visiting Center City, how much does a blighted area 25 minutes away in North Philly impact their overall impression?
Again, most nonresidents base cities off of their downtowns because that's where the majority of attractions, restaurants and businesses are. If DC is regarded as safe because it's polished in its core, then so should Philadelphia. Center City is one of the most well-maintained and vibrant places in the country.
DC's Chinatown is ridiculously gentrified, trendy, and posh. 20+ years ago it was definitely nothing like what it is today.
COVID really, really hurts that area. It was trendy and posh before that. Things are still better than it was in the 90s in that area, but definitely not as good as it was circa 2015 or so either.
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Only among people who watch underground rap videos. In reality, no one is really thinking of Compton. And the numbers arent there.
Nothing in DC look remotely like the bolded. This is why it is what it is. Maybe it shouldnt but it does have an impact when youre in DC you dont feel any heightened level of danger. Even SE DC is full of single family homes with yards...
Compton homicide number has been low for years anyway - but also due to changing demographics with way more Hispanics than blacks nowaday. It had already been discussed multiple time in this thread that immigrant communities tend to not have a crazy homicide / violent crime number.
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I repped that reply but forgot to respond.
Judging a city's 'newsworthiness' on crime solely based on its level of cleanliness is misleading and intellectually dishonest. Homicide victims in any city should be given equal importance, regardless of the city's appearance.
That's a fair point about Portland. What about Minneapolis? Despite being a well-maintained city, it's receiving criticism as if it were the second coming of Detroit.
DC and Minneapolis are both extremely tidy, yet only DC is exempt from being scrutinized by the media for its crime even though its crime rate is twice of Minneapolis and Portland.
The Minneapolis IS definitely right-wing BS. They keep wanting to talk about how "disband the PD" (which, by the way, did not even happened anywhere) leads to high crime, meanwhile Minneapolis crimes had come back down already.
Side note - it's not really just DC that gets away on a National News level about crimes - look at Dallas, Houston, or even Indianapolis. Houston in particular was awful last year (but homicide numbers look much better this year).
If a tourist is unaware of the rough bombed-out neighborhoods in Philadelphia and is visiting Center City, how much does a blighted area 25 minutes away in North Philly impact their overall impression?
Again, most nonresidents base cities off of their downtowns because that's where the majority of attractions, restaurants and businesses are. If DC is regarded as safe because it's polished in its core, then so should Philadelphia. Center City is one of the most well-maintained and vibrant places in the country.
You cant really avoid seeing socking poverty in Philly- i mean maybe you could I never have when I've visited.
DCs nice areas are cleaner and more sterilized. Its bad areas are not anywhere near as bad as Philly. Even the gentrify-y areas of Philly are kind of sketchy looking. Whereas DC is the flip/inverse even the dangerous areas are kind of nice (not all of them for sure).
It really just a totally different animal. Not saying its fair, but it just IS.
Judging a city's 'newsworthiness' on crime solely based on its level of cleanliness is misleading and intellectually dishonest. Homicide victims in any city should be given equal importance, regardless of the city's appearance.
That's a fair point about Portland. What about Minneapolis? Despite being a well-maintained city, it's receiving criticism as if it were the second coming of Detroit.
DC and Minneapolis are both extremely tidy, yet only DC is exempt from being scrutinized by the media for its crime even though its crime rate is twice of Minneapolis and Portland.
It's total intellectual dishonesty, but that's DC for ya. It was an interesting place to spend a good chunk of my life, but I would never move back there (although I'm long overdue for a visit).
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COVID really, really hurts that area. It was trendy and posh before that. Things are still better than it was in the 90s in that area, but definitely not as good as it was circa 2015 or so either.
Well, I haven't been back to DC since 2019, but I can imagine. That's too bad. A lot of cool bars and restaurants in that neighborhood the last few times I was there. COVID really did a number on so many up-and-coming places all over the country, and it's interesting to see which ones have come undone, versus the ones that are thriving.
Hartford 14
Bridgeport 13
Springfield 13
New Haven 12
Waterbury 12
Providence 7
Brockton 5
Holyoke 3
New Bedford 2
Lawrence 2
Fall River 2
Holyoke 2
Manchester, NH 2
Worcester 1
Pawtucket 1
Chelsea 1
Stamford 1
Norwalk 1
Middletown, CT 1
Norwich 1
New Britain 1
Danbury 1
Meriden 1
Lynn 1 ?
Lowell 0
Just nuts Lawrence is on pace to have a homicide rate below national average when the town has a 27% poverty rate and just a few miles from more or less an endless supply of guns. And its really not abnormal for the town.
Worcester is really impressive, on pace for .9/100,000 is like European level safety.
What’s nuts is the reputation Lawrence, Worcester, Lowell, and Lynn have among Bostonians when Boston is by a long shot much much worse. Hell Revere has a “bad” reputation and it’s practically Mayberry
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