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Old 04-03-2023, 12:15 PM
 
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Not only that but as another user pointed out, it’s a super wealthy state. I think the second or third wealthiest in the country? It doesn’t really have much in common with Texas. So the numbers here don’t surprise me.
Being an already wealthy state makes it harder to have fast economic growth because compositional growth is more difficult.

In say Florida or SC you can see growth with few net new jobs by replacing a hospitality worker with a Tech worker or a server with a Pharma worker. (This is how the early Soviet Union and post communist China hit gangbusters GDP growth) there is little growth in employment in Mass it’s hard for GDP to grow since there is less compositional optimization to happen.
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Old 04-03-2023, 12:22 PM
 
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But certain industries benefitted from the last couple years, namely Big Pharma and Big Tech. In that light, I think Boston and Silicon Valley being overall winners in the GDP game is to be expected.
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Old 04-03-2023, 06:22 PM
 
Location: PHX -> ATL
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How is Ohio at $840 billion?
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Old 04-03-2023, 06:26 PM
 
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How is Ohio at $840 billion?
Lots and lots of people. Even if incomes are pretty average
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Old 04-04-2023, 11:54 AM
 
Location: Katy,Texas
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Texas seems to have a lot of babies being born comparatively especially to Florida. So that might explain some of the disparities. Also small city Florida does significantly better than small city Texas from a growth perspective and that’s still a substantial part of the population outside of the big 4 cities in Florida and Texas.
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Old 04-04-2023, 03:55 PM
 
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How is Ohio at $840 billion?
Believe it or not, a lot of things are produced in Ohio. Top 10 GDP and population as well.
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Old 04-04-2023, 05:27 PM
 
Location: The canyon (with my pistols and knife)
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Solid growth for CA, FL, GA, WA, MA, TN, AZ, OR, SC, NV, UT, HI, DE and RI. All of these states grew over 4% during the highlighted time.
Conversely, it looks like the top energy-producing states (TX, PA, WY, WV, NM, OK, ND, LA) are all laggards.
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Old 04-04-2023, 10:28 PM
 
Location: Los Altos Hills, CA
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I believe that NY and MA or vice versa, are 1 and 2 for GDP per capita, if I'm not mistaken.
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Per Capita GDP, Q4 2022
NY-----$107,040
MA-----$102,463
WA-----$97,012
CA-----$94,897
ND-----$93,709
AK-----$91,428
CT-----$91,111
DE-----$90,000
NE-----$86,315
CO-----$85,344
IL-----$84,560
NH-----$83,076
NJ-----$83,043
WY-----$80,895
TX-----$80,552
MN-----$80,175
MD-----$78,852
VA-----$77,441
UT-----$77,272
SD-----$75,555
KS-----$74,137
OR-----$73,809
IA-----$73,726
PA-----$73,410
RI-----$73,000
NV-----$71,935
OH-----$71,794
GA-----$71,376
WI-----$70,862
NC-----$70,849
TN-----$70,285
HI-----$70,138
IN-----$68,676
VT-----$68,333
ME-----$66,158
MO-----$65,409
FL-----$64,729
AZ-----$64,657
MI-----$63,500
LA-----$62,597
OK-----$60,750
ID-----$59,473
KY-----$59,333
AL-----$59,200
NM-----$58,571
SC-----$58,461
MT-----$58,181
WV-----$56,470
AR-----$56,333
MS-----$48,965
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Old 04-05-2023, 02:01 PM
 
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FL-----+--$1.437T GDP
TX-----+-$2.419T GDP

TX GDP almost 50% larger and per capita, 29% higher. I've said it before when talking about Fortune 500 HQs by state, Florida underwhelms NOTICEABLY.
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Old 04-05-2023, 02:39 PM
 
Location: Boston Metrowest (via the Philly area)
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This is kind of what throws me off Economic growth in Massachusetts is on par or better than most sunbelt states (sans FL). It’s housing market remains robust and we are suppose to believe the population is declining?

Seems like the numbers conflict
The problem with that is that you seem to be conflating GDP with job/population growth. You can easily have growing GDP and declining population (you see this in a lot of "Rust Belt" cities, because rise in value of economic productivity in many cases more than offsets the decline in population/workforce).

In other words, economic growth (as measured by economic value, which is what GDP is, not jobs) has long been de-coupling from population growth, especially within ever-increasing automation and "technifying" of industries.
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