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Old 04-03-2023, 07:38 AM
 
Location: Los Altos Hills, CA
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Looking over recently released state GDP data by bea.gov, and I wanted to calculate current-value total dollar growth for H2 of last year.

H2= July 31, 2022 thru December 31, 2022

anyhow, by this measure, Oregon and Hawaii lead in percentage growth

California and Florida lead in total dollar growth, FL edging out TX by $1B, and NYS is actually only $1B less than TX

Anyhow, here are my findings...

50 States H2 2022 GDP:

State----H2 2022 Growth--Q4 GDP
CA-----+$143B--+4.01%--$3.701T
FL-----+$66B--+4.81%--$1.437T
TX-----+$65B--+2.76%--$2.419T
NY-----+$64B--+3.14%--$2.098T
GA-----+$33B--+4.14%--$778B
IL-----+$33B---+3.22%--$1.057T
WA-----$30B--+4.18%--$747B
MA-----+$28B--+4.12%--$707B
NC-----+$28B--+3.87%--$751B
NJ-----+$27B--+3.66%--$764B
PA-----+$24B--+2.62%--$947B
VA-----+$24B--+3.73%--$666B
OH-----+$34B--+2.81%--$840B
TN-----+$23B--+4.90%--$492B
MI-----+$20B--+3.25%--$635B
AZ-----+$19B--+4.19%--$472B
MD-----+$16B--+3.44%--$481B
OR-----+$16B--+5.44%--$310B
CO-----+$15B--+3.12%--$495B
IN-----+$15B--+3.21%--$467B
MN-----+$15B--+3.39%--$457B
MO-----+$13B--+3.36%--$399B
WI-----+$13B--+3.22%--$411B
AL-----+$11B--+3.95%--$296B
CT-----+$11B--+3.47%--$328B
SC-----+$12B--+4.10%--$304B
NV-----+$10B--+4.69%--$223B
UT-----+$10B--+4.08%--$255B
KY-----+$9B--+3.48%--$267B
AR-----+$6B--+3.68%--$169B
IA-----+$6B--+2.30%--$236B
KS-----+$6B--+2.87%--$215B
LA-----+6B--+2.13%--$287B
HI-----+$5B--+5.20%--$101B
ID-----+$5B--+4.69%--$113B
DE-----+4B--+4.65%--$90B
MS-----+$4B--+2.89%--$142B
NH-----+$4B--+3.86%--$108B
ME-----+$3B--+3.61%--$86B
NE-----+$3B--+1.86%--$164B
RI-----+$3B--+4.28%--$73B
MT-----+$2B--+3.12%--$64B
NM-----+$1B--+0.81%--$123B
OK-----+$1B--+0.41%--$243B
SD-----+$1B--+1.49%--$68B
VT-----+$1B--+2.50%--$41B
AK-------No Change--$64B
WV------No Change--$96B
ND----- -$1B-- -1.35%--$73B
WY----- -$1B-- -2.08%--$47B
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Old 04-03-2023, 07:48 AM
 
Location: Florida
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I’m impressed California can still grow at that rate despite already being huge. Hats off to Silicon Valley.
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Old 04-03-2023, 07:51 AM
 
Location: Maryland
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Wasn't sure when it happened, but good for IL passing $1T GDP despite population losses. Seems to be widening the gap between IL and PA economically despite the population doing the opposite.
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Old 04-03-2023, 08:07 AM
 
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I believe that NY and MA or vice versa, are 1 and 2 for GDP per capita, if I'm not mistaken.
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Old 04-03-2023, 08:29 AM
 
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This is kind of what throws me off Economic growth in Massachusetts is on par or better than most sunbelt states (sans FL). It’s housing market remains robust and we are suppose to believe the population is declining?

Seems like the numbers conflict
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Old 04-03-2023, 10:40 AM
 
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This is kind of what throws me off Economic growth in Massachusetts is on par or better than most sunbelt states (sans FL). It’s housing market remains robust and we are suppose to believe the population is declining?

Seems like the numbers conflict
MA to a sunbelt state is an apples to oranges comparison. MA is a small and very urban state. TX for example is a massive state geographically much of which is made up of rural areas that aren't doing particularly great economically. The Texas Triangle alone (the small "urban" subset of Texas!) is 6x bigger than Massachusetts, geographically. That major coastal cities are growing quickly economically even without population growth is hardly limited to MA, we see that in a number of places.
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Old 04-03-2023, 10:48 AM
 
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I’m impressed California can still grow at that rate despite already being huge. Hats off to Silicon Valley.
Agreed. It’s incredible when you think about it and just how long California has dominated honestly.
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Old 04-03-2023, 10:48 AM
 
Location: Baltimore
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This is kind of what throws me off Economic growth in Massachusetts is on par or better than most sunbelt states (sans FL). It’s housing market remains robust and we are suppose to believe the population is declining?

Seems like the numbers conflict
None of the bolded matters if the people moving into the state are wealthy and single....and thousands of families are moving out due to the increased desirability.

A large segment of MA can float above the general ineffectiveness an opaqueness of state government less-than-housing stock. Most families and lower middle class cannot though. There was already a lack of housing and the cost to build only rises.
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Old 04-03-2023, 10:54 AM
 
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MA to a sunbelt state is an apples to oranges comparison. MA is a small and very urban state. TX for example is a massive state geographically much of which is made up of rural areas that aren't doing particularly great economically. The Texas Triangle alone (the small "urban" subset of Texas!) is 6x bigger than Massachusetts, geographically. That major coastal cities are growing quickly economically even without population growth is hardly limited to MA, we see that in a number of places.
Not only that but as another user pointed out, it’s a super wealthy state. I think the second or third wealthiest in the country? It doesn’t really have much in common with Texas. So the numbers here don’t surprise me.
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Old 04-03-2023, 11:38 AM
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Looking over recently released state GDP data by bea.gov, and I wanted to calculate current-value total dollar growth for H2 of last year.

H2= July 31, 2022 thru December 31, 2022

anyhow, by this measure, Oregon and Hawaii lead in percentage growth

California and Florida lead in total dollar growth, FL edging out TX by $1B, and NYS is actually only $1B less than TX

Anyhow, here are my findings...

50 States H2 2022 GDP:

State----H2 2022 Growth--Q4 GDP
CA-----+$143B--+4.01%--$3.701T
FL-----+$66B--+4.81%--$1.437T
TX-----+$65B--+2.76%--$2.419T
NY-----+$64B--+3.14%--$2.098T
GA-----+$33B--+4.14%--$778B
IL-----+$33B---+3.22%--$1.057T
WA-----$30B--+4.18%--$747B
MA-----+$28B--+4.12%--$707B
NC-----+$28B--+3.87%--$751B
NJ-----+$27B--+3.66%--$764B
PA-----+$24B--+2.62%--$947B
VA-----+$24B--+3.73%--$666B
OH-----+$34B--+2.81%--$840B
TN-----+$23B--+4.90%--$492B
MI-----+$20B--+3.25%--$635B
AZ-----+$19B--+4.19%--$472B
MD-----+$16B--+3.44%--$481B
OR-----+$16B--+5.44%--$310B
CO-----+$15B--+3.12%--$495B
IN-----+$15B--+3.21%--$467B
MN-----+$15B--+3.39%--$457B
MO-----+$13B--+3.36%--$399B
WI-----+$13B--+3.22%--$411B
AL-----+$11B--+3.95%--$296B
CT-----+$11B--+3.47%--$328B
SC-----+$12B--+4.10%--$304B
NV-----+$10B--+4.69%--$223B
UT-----+$10B--+4.08%--$255B
KY-----+$9B--+3.48%--$267B
AR-----+$6B--+3.68%--$169B
IA-----+$6B--+2.30%--$236B
KS-----+$6B--+2.87%--$215B
LA-----+6B--+2.13%--$287B
HI-----+$5B--+5.20%--$101B
ID-----+$5B--+4.69%--$113B
DE-----+4B--+4.65%--$90B
MS-----+$4B--+2.89%--$142B
NH-----+$4B--+3.86%--$108B
ME-----+$3B--+3.61%--$86B
NE-----+$3B--+1.86%--$164B
RI-----+$3B--+4.28%--$73B
MT-----+$2B--+3.12%--$64B
NM-----+$1B--+0.81%--$123B
OK-----+$1B--+0.41%--$243B
SD-----+$1B--+1.49%--$68B
VT-----+$1B--+2.50%--$41B
AK-------No Change--$64B
WV------No Change--$96B
ND----- -$1B-- -1.35%--$73B
WY----- -$1B-- -2.08%--$47B
Solid growth for CA, FL, GA, WA, MA, TN, AZ, OR, SC, NV, UT, HI, DE and RI. All of these states grew over 4% during the highlighted time.

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