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Old 05-04-2023, 02:28 PM
 
Location: ATL via ROC
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Are there any cities that come to mind that were prominent on the national level when you were younger, but today are no longer discussed because they have faded into irrelevance? Or on the other hand sleepy towns that have boomed into household names? I’m thinking in terms of culture, economics, “star power,” etc. not solely population.

I know some of this will correlate with population changes, but maybe not always. Pittsburgh seems to be about as relevant today as it was when I was born despite continuing to shed population. Then there are cities like Boise and Raleigh that only recently began to emerge.

What do you think?
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Old 05-04-2023, 03:01 PM
 
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The usual suspects:

Detroit
Milwaukee
Cleveland
Pittsburgh
St Louis

have continued to lose stature in my lifetime while places such as Greenville SC and Bentonville Arkansas are climbing up the ladder.

Moderately known cities such as Raleigh and Austin became more prominent, while prominent cities like Philadelphia and Chicago have assumed a more reserved profile.
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Old 05-04-2023, 03:27 PM
 
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I’d this just not a population graph? Trends really haven’t changed in 70 years. Except young people might leave LA off the list since it’s rude has screeched to a halt over the last 20 years.

Miami, Atlanta, Dallas, Austin, Charlotte up

Chicago, Cleveland, Detroit, Pittsburgh down
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Old 05-04-2023, 03:33 PM
 
Location: Baltimore
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I was born in 1994.

I would say grown in relevance are Nashville, Austin, Miami, DC, ATL, Seattle, Raleigh, Boston, Boise, and Minneapolis

Declined? Oakland, LA, Detroit, Cleveland, St. Louis, New Orleans
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Old 05-04-2023, 04:20 PM
 
Location: ATL via ROC
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The usual suspects:

Detroit
Milwaukee
Cleveland
Pittsburgh
St Louis

have continued to lose stature in my lifetime while places such as Greenville SC and Bentonville Arkansas are climbing up the ladder.

Moderately known cities such as Raleigh and Austin became more prominent, while prominent cities like Philadelphia and Chicago have assumed a more reserved profile.
Chicago is a great example of fading relevance. I was born in the 1990s and the Chicago of that era was far more nationally prominent as I understand it. You had the Bulls dynasty with one of the greatest runs in sports history, Michael Jordan at the forefront bringing enormous fanfare to the city. You also had Oprah Winfrey at the height of her career broadcasting from Chicago and bringing in a small media empire to the Midwest with Jerry Springer, Donahue, Judge Mathis. President Obama was born of this era.

But today it seems like Chicago’s rich cultural legacy has been overshadowed by its reputation as a violent, gang infested, decaying city, whether deserved or not. Nobody in my social circle has taken on the Windy City, instead favoring the Sunbelt or NYC/Boston to start their professional careers.
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Old 05-04-2023, 04:23 PM
 
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Chicago is a great example of fading relevance. I was born in the 1990s and the Chicago of that era was far more nationally prominent as I understand it. You had the Bulls dynasty with one of the greatest runs in sports history, Michael Jordan at the forefront bringing enormous fanfare to the city. You also had Oprah Winfrey at the height of her career broadcasting from Chicago and bringing in a small media empire to the Midwest with Jerry Springer, Donahue, Judge Mathis. President Obama was born of this era.

But today it seems like Chicago’s rich cultural legacy has been overshadowed by its reputation as a violent, gang infested, decaying city, whether deserved or not. Nobody in my social circle has taken on the Windy City, instead favoring the Sunbelt or NYC/Boston to start their professional careers.
I know numerous people with finance degrees, who have chosen Chicago within the last few years. All have stayed there and are living a pretty nice life. Not a one has been a victim of crime. Chicago is still an Alpha city, and ranked in the top 3 or 4 in the US.
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Old 05-04-2023, 04:23 PM
 
Location: Baltimore
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Chicago is a great example of fading relevance. I was born in the 1990s and the Chicago of that era was far more nationally prominent as I understand it. You had the Bulls dynasty with one of the greatest runs in sports history, Michael Jordan at the forefront bringing enormous fanfare to the city. You also had Oprah Winfrey at the height of her career broadcasting from Chicago and bringing in a small media empire to the Midwest with Jerry Springer, Donahue, Judge Mathis. President Obama was born of this era.

But today it seems like Chicago’s rich cultural legacy has been overshadowed by its reputation as a violent, gang infested, decaying city, whether deserved or not. Nobody in my social circle has taken on the Windy City, instead favoring the Sunbelt or NYC/Boston to start their professional careers.
Don't forget Family Matters! And sorta kinda Roseanne.

Before the whole drill/murder thing I always thought of Chicago as the large Wholesome American megacity. Which I now know was naive.
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Old 05-04-2023, 04:34 PM
 
Location: Nashville, TN
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Grown:
Charlotte, Nashville, DC, Austin, Denver, Huntsville

These cities continue to rise in prominence. I like that they offer a high quality of life and things to do.

Faded:
Atlanta, New Orleans, Memphis, St. Louis, San Francisco, Portland

For me the faded cities have lost their luster. Crime, run down areas, low vibrations feeling, congested etc. have kept them from being relevant to me.
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Old 05-04-2023, 04:35 PM
 
Location: New York City
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I know numerous people with finance degrees, who have chosen Chicago within the last few years. All have stayed there and are living a pretty nice life. Not a one has been a victim of crime. Chicago is still an Alpha city, and ranked in the top 3 or 4 in the US.
I too know successful people who have relocated from the Northeast to Chicago and love it.

The idea of not knowing someone who moved to X city, therefore it is less relevant is one of my annoyances of City Data.

And agree, Chicago has more competition these days, but it's still one of the top alpha cities no matter how you slice it.

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Don't forget Family Matters! And sorta kinda Roseanne.

Before the whole drill/murder thing I always thought of Chicago as the large Wholesome American megacity. Which I now know was naive.
And the John Hughes era movies in the 80s/early 90s. That added to the wholesome (and usually white/wealthy) image of Chicago, lol.
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Old 05-04-2023, 04:39 PM
 
Location: Austin, TX
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Grown:
Charlotte, Nashville, DC, Austin, Denver, Huntsville

These cities continue to rise in prominence. I like that they offer a high quality of life and things to do.

Faded:
Atlanta, New Orleans, Memphis, St. Louis, San Francisco, Portland

For me the faded cities have lost their luster. Crime, run down areas, low vibrations feeling, congested etc. have kept them from being relevant to me.
Atlanta? I don’t really see it as fading. It’s growing rapidly and lots of good things are happening for the city.
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