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KC metro is 2.2 million
Tulsa 1 million
Omaha is almost 1 million
Des Moines 700k
It has major cultural institutions and museums that are much more heavy-hitting than the other cities. Also, KC has pro sports, which the others do not have.
As you state, in most things KC beats Tulsa, The city is twice the size, The Plaza is a bigger, better Utica Square, KC’s downtown is larger and has the Power and Light. Major league sports.
But when it comes to the arts, this is just not true. Tulsa has professional orchestras, ballet, and opera at least at the level of Kansas City. Philbook is comparable to Nelson-Atkins but with a massive formal gardens. And Kansas City has nothing like Gilcrease Museum, even though it’s currently closed to build a new main building.
Des Moines, only because it needed a vote. Seriously though, Kansas City is in another league of these other cities. This really should’ve been a debate between the other three cities.
Des Moines, only because it needed a vote. Seriously though, Kansas City is in another league of these other cities. This really should’ve been a debate between the other three cities.
I agree. Awhile back, someone introduced a topic comparing Des Moines with Milwaukee, which has a metro more than twice the size. It seemed unfair.
Years and years ago (actually 24 years ago) I left after having lived and worked in Des Moines, but have been back several times since then. It definitely has become much more of a vibrant city since I've been there (despite the current state politics - yuck!), with entertainment, dining, and drinking that most people can appreciate, along with a stable and robust economy. The Broadway shows that go on the road almost always make their way fairly soon to Des Moines which punches well above it's weight in attracting big theatre productions to the Civic Center (it even beats Omaha in this category).
I voted for Tulsa as it just seems more unique culturally. Since pop culture exposure is a component of cool, how is KC winning?
There was an underrated little noir called "Keys to Tulsa" from the late 1990's with a big cast, and the more recent Stallone series set and filmed there.
Where is KC in pop culture these days? Being mentioned by the Byrd family as a place they're stopping on the way somewhere else in a random episode of Ozark?
We now return to the regularly scheduled procession of "KC and its not even close"comments.
Des Moines is the coolest of these cities, with an average July high of 86 degrees and a January low of 17 degrees according to Weather Spark.
Wow, winters must be warming at a crazy rate in Iowa because MCI, (official place of temperature records for Kansas City, MO), used to have an average low temperature of 16-17 degrees in January around 30 years ago.
You know, other than their 2 major league professional sports teams, Kansas City does not feel more cosmopolitan and cool than Omaha. In fact, to me, having lived in this region my entire life, they both “feel” the same. Maybe back in the 1980’s Omaha was lacking and I found myself traveling to KC for their better amenities and entertainment options..this is simply NOT the case today. Omaha offers folks pretty much the same urban and hip and amenity and cool and cosmopolitan experience as Kansas City.
Those who typically vote because of size and say “it’s KC and it’s not even close” I respond by saying it’s NOT true or even remotely accurate. Omaha is a metro of 1 million, KC is double that size, but that doesn’t mean it is double the hip, cool or cosmopolitan factor.. AT ALL.
I voted for Tulsa as it just seems more unique culturally. Since pop culture exposure is a component of cool, how is KC winning?
There was an underrated little noir called "Keys to Tulsa" from the late 1990's with a big cast, and the more recent Stallone series set and filmed there.
Where is KC in pop culture these days? Being mentioned by the Byrd family as a place they're stopping on the way somewhere else in a random episode of Ozark?
We now return to the regularly scheduled procession of "KC and its not even close"comments.
We're talking cosmopolitan and cool. Just because a show is shot somewhere doesn't mean said place is cool, see Fargo, Andy Griffith, and the Ozarks.
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