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Old 07-19-2023, 12:13 PM
 
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Seattle's light rail will extend north in 2024, and east and south in 2025 (we hope). They're working through some technical challenges. It'll see a huge boost in ridership when all of this happens.

Sound Transit will also open a major streetcar extension in Tacoma this summer. The numbers won't be huge but it'll do ok since it gets people up a big hill.

(Most local transit is actually the county systems, which are mostly buses. The largest is King County Metro.)
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Old 07-19-2023, 12:22 PM
 
Location: In the heights
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Seattle's light rail will extend north in 2024, and east and south in 2025 (we hope). They're working through some technical challenges. It'll see a huge boost in ridership when all of this happens.

Sound Transit will also open a major streetcar extension in Tacoma this summer. The numbers won't be huge but it'll do ok since it gets people up a big hill.

(Most local transit is actually the county systems, which are mostly buses. The largest is King County Metro.)

Do you know if there are any plans to have a branching service into Queen Anne and then north to Fremont and Greenwood? When the 2 Line opens, it seems like the area northwards where the 1 Line and 2 line would run together would double the frequency, but I'm not sure if it makes sense for that part to have double the frequency rather than another service branching north out from downtown.
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Old 07-19-2023, 12:54 PM
 
Location: Houston/Austin, TX
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If some of these BRT stations get automation in the future, this will be something cool to witness. Particularly Boston’s underground bus

https://youtu.be/9M95c7SNas4
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Old 07-19-2023, 01:40 PM
 
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Do you know if there are any plans to have a branching service into Queen Anne and then north to Fremont and Greenwood? When the 2 Line opens, it seems like the area northwards where the 1 Line and 2 line would run together would double the frequency, but I'm not sure if it makes sense for that part to have double the frequency rather than another service branching north out from downtown.
They're currently at the EIS and initial route/concept decision stage for lines to West Seattle and Ballard, including another tunnel through Downtown. The Ballard line will be near the west edge of Queen Anne Hill.

It seems unlikely that trains will never go to the top of Queen Anne. It's too high, and the top isn't populated enough to spend the necessary money (billion+ presumably). They'd probably need a station 200' deep. In the original streetcar days we had the "Counterbalance," basically a cable car like San Francisco. Currently the bus service is pretty good, with reasonably-frequent routes covering different parts of the hill.

There was talk of a streetcar along the east side of Queen Anne to Fremont then Ballard, but that was before the current general system was planned. Buses are pretty good for the N-S and E-W parts of that route.

Greenwood would be nice, as I take that route sometimes, but the bus service is decent for that too, every 15 minutes and reasonably fast.
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Old 07-19-2023, 02:31 PM
 
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Dallas wasn’t designed like a Northeast city so that would be pointless

I always tell people no matter how much transit you add down south ridership will always be abysmal across the board. The main problem is land usage. You would need to bulldoze most of the city and start from scratch but we all know thats not happening
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Old 07-19-2023, 02:55 PM
 
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I always tell people no matter how much transit you add down south ridership will always be abysmal across the board. The main problem is land usage. You would need to bulldoze most of the city and start from scratch but we all know thats not happening
NOVA is a good model because in a lot of ways they build the city as they built the metro
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Old 07-19-2023, 03:08 PM
 
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I always tell people no matter how much transit you add down south ridership will always be abysmal across the board. The main problem is land usage. You would need to bulldoze most of the city and start from scratch but we all know thats not happening

Given how much there is in surface parking lots, the conversion can supposedly be quite fast.
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Old 07-19-2023, 04:13 PM
 
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NOVA is a good model because in a lot of ways they build the city as they built the metro

NOVA is not the south. it's where the northeast bos-wash corridor begins
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Old 07-19-2023, 04:14 PM
 
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Given how much there is in surface parking lots, the conversion can supposedly be quite fast.

Eh, Dallas has the largest light rail system in the country and has plethora of infill development over surface parking lots. guess what, ridership is still ass. If these infill buildings have 1000 parking spots nobody's taking transit.
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Old 07-19-2023, 04:22 PM
 
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NOVA is not the south. it's where the northeast bos-wash corridor begins
NOVA is 100% the sunbelt.
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