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View Poll Results: Which state is the most heavily propped up by its top metro?
Hawaii (Honolulu) 28 23.33%
Maryland (Baltimore) 5 4.17%
Indiana (Indianapolis) 15 12.50%
Wisconsin (Milwaukee) 2 1.67%
Oregon (Portland) 30 25.00%
Louisiana (New Orleans) 40 33.33%
Voters: 120. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 08-11-2023, 07:35 PM
 
Location: Honolulu/DMV Area/NYC
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I think it’s pretty definitively Hawaii. For example I’m confident in saying if Honolulu didn’t exist, Hawaii would never have become a state. I don’t think you can say that about any other state on the list.
Yep. The fact that Hawaii isn't running away with this shows me how little people actually know about the state. Honolulu is home to over 70% of Hawaii's population, has the vast majority of jobs and thoroughly drives the economic engine of the state. It's not even close.
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Old 08-11-2023, 07:44 PM
 
Location: That star on your map in the middle of the East Coast, DMV
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Yep. The fact that Hawaii isn't running away with this shows me how little people actually know about the state. Honolulu is home to over 70% of Hawaii's population, has the vast majority of jobs and thoroughly drives the economic engine of the state. It's not even close.
Honolulu is absolutely the correct answer to the OP. I haven't voted tho.
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Old 08-11-2023, 08:09 PM
 
Location: La Jolla
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Yep. The fact that Hawaii isn't running away with this shows me how little people actually know about the state. Honolulu is home to over 70% of Hawaii's population, has the vast majority of jobs and thoroughly drives the economic engine of the state. It's not even close.
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Honolulu is absolutely the correct answer to the OP. I haven't voted tho.
The argument being made for a Honolulu-less Hawaii is that it would still be a tourism and military hub.

Alaska is practically vacant, but has one of the most important airports in the world, natural resources, critical military presence, etc.
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Old 08-11-2023, 09:07 PM
 
Location: Honolulu/DMV Area/NYC
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The argument being made for a Honolulu-less Hawaii is that it would still be a tourism and military hub.

Alaska is practically vacant, but has one of the most important airports in the world, natural resources, critical military presence, etc.
That supposes several hypotheticals surrounding on the cost-prohibitive resources necessary to build up infrastructure to effectuate such a shift, which can be said for most of the cities on your list. For instance, New Orleans (LA) has a lot of tourism, employment, etc. settings, which could hypothetically be moved to other parts of the state. Same with Baltimore (MD) and others on that list. In practice, however, the rest of Hawaii is not actually set up (infrastructure-wise) to accommodate the kind of tourism that Honolulu takes in, or the military industrial base. Or anything close to it. There is a reason why the vast majority of people, tourism, and military are in metro Honolulu. In reality Hawaii would not be a tourism or military hub without metro Honolulu.

I think once we start to touch on points that necessitate the buildup of things not currently in existence to support some positions, we're getting outside the scope of the question IMO. Just my two cents
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Old 08-11-2023, 09:31 PM
 
Location: Howard County, Maryland
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Yep. The fact that Hawaii isn't running away with this shows me how little people actually know about the state. Honolulu is home to over 70% of Hawaii's population, has the vast majority of jobs and thoroughly drives the economic engine of the state. It's not even close.
Of the 10 most populous CDPs in Hawaii, eight of them are on Oahu. (The exceptions are Hilo and Kahului.) It really is amazing how concentrated the state's population is.
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Old 08-11-2023, 09:46 PM
 
Location: Howard County, Maryland
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The argument being made for a Honolulu-less Hawaii is that it would still be a tourism and military hub.
Yes, there would still be tourism in Hawaii even if Honolulu fell into the sea. There are direct flights from the Mainland to Maui, Kauai, and the Big Island, and at least some of these flights would presumably continue to operate, serving the tourists who want to visit these islands. But it would be just a small fraction of what there is now, with Honolulu still "afloat."

As for the military, nearly all of their bases and men are located on Oahu. The military has only a very small presence on the other islands. Of course, as we get farther afield from the original question, we can assume that some new bases would be built, due to Hawaii's strategic location. But the Navy would be really out of luck, as there is nothing even remotely approaching the quality of the anchorage in Pearl Harbor on any other Hawaiian island.
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Old 08-11-2023, 10:12 PM
 
Location: The Heart of Dixie
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Of all state probably Nevada without Las Vegas. Over 80 percent of Nevada's population lives in Clark County, without Las Vegas, Nevada will be left with half of Lake Tahoe with some nice tourism, plus mostly empty desert with some areas okay for ranching and mining.

Massachusetts, Idaho, Nebraska, Washington State are all states with just one major city.
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Old 08-14-2023, 09:57 AM
 
Location: OC
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I voted Oregon:

Hawaii (Honolulu)- Nothing changes imo.
Maryland (Baltimore)-DC is right there.
Indiana (Indianapolis)
Wisconsin (Milwaukee)
Oregon (Portland)
Louisiana (New Orleans)- a city like Baton Rouge may become more prominent.
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Old 08-16-2023, 09:17 AM
 
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I vote Oregon or Hawaii. Maryland shouldn't have been included in this list. I live in the DC burbs. We do not consider Baltimore our big city. Illinois would be a good substitute. Not saying losing Baltimore MSA would have no effect. But this state functions as if it has 2 big metro areas which it does. There are a ton of other states that would be more appropriate for this comparison.

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Old 08-16-2023, 09:39 AM
 
Location: Houston/Austin, TX
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I voted Oregon. There’s a lot in louisiana besides Nola
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