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Old 09-25-2023, 07:50 PM
 
Location: That star on your map in the middle of the East Coast, DMV
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If we are going by settlement date it's going to skew the rankings a lot.

There were people living in Jonestown since 1661, while Fells Point was surveyed out in 1670. Both were eventually incorporated to form Baltimore in 1729.

The first settlement in what would become modern day Philly was 1648 by dutch settlers made Fort Beversreede in what is now Eastwick.
Similar with Alexandria, VA. Settled on Oct. 21, 1669, officially founded 1749, and incorporated 1779.

Georgetown settled in 1632, but was not founded by Maryland for another 119 years in 1751. The land later that century from the two combining to make the borders of Washington DC.
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Old 09-25-2023, 07:50 PM
 
Location: Land of Ill Noise
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I was researching something and got curious as to when certain core cities were founded so I created a list, because why not lol.

Some things to note:
Most of these cities/areas had native inhabitants for centuries prior to their European founding's. It's very difficult to determine their indigenous origins so I went with the modern founding dates. Please keep this in mind when reviewing, I'd prefer to avoid side bar discussions and comments regarding this.

These numbers are based off of cheap google searches. In most cases I was able to find a couple of sources that concurred with the "founding years". There are a few instances, namely Milwaukee, Miami, and Grand Rapids where it was difficult to determine. Honolulu was a different beast entirely.

Because this is a lazy list based on a google search there are likely errors in it. Feel free as homers and folks with more knowledge than I am to give me what you believe to be the correct years and I'll update the list.

I am defining "year founded" as the year the area was first settled. I am NOT looking at when the cities were first incorporated. Many of these cities had been settled and grew into decent population centers prior to the concept of incorporation.

Enjoy!
  1. Richmond 1607
  2. New York 1614
  3. Boston 1630
  4. Hartford 1635
  5. Norfolk 1636
  6. Providence 1636
  7. Philadelphia 1682
  8. Detroit 1701
  9. San Antonio 1718
  10. New Orleans 1718
  11. Baltimore 1729
  12. Austin 1730
  13. St. Louis 1764
  14. Pittsburgh 1764
  15. Charlotte 1768
  16. San Diego 1769
  17. Tucson 1775
  18. San Francisco 1776
  19. San Jose 1777
  20. Nashville 1779
  21. Louisville 1779
  22. Chicago 1780
  23. Los Angeles 1781
  24. Cincinnati 1781
  25. Raleigh 1789
  26. Buffalo 1789
  27. Rochester 1789
  28. Washington DC 1790
  29. Cleveland 1796
  30. Columbus 1797
  31. Milwaukee 1818
  32. Memphis 1819
  33. Indianapolis 1821
  34. Jacksonville 1822
  35. Tampa 1824
  36. Grand Rapids 1826
  37. Tulsa 1828
  38. Atlanta 1836
  39. Houston 1837
  40. Kansas City 1838
  41. Sacramento 1839
  42. Dallas 1841
  43. Orlando 1843
  44. Portland 1843
  45. Salt Lake City 1847
  46. Minneapolis 1849
  47. Seattle 1851
  48. Las Vegas 1855
  49. Miami 1858
  50. Denver 1858
  51. Phoenix 1867
  52. Birmingham 1871
  53. Fresno 1872
  54. Oklahoma City 1889
  55. Honolulu - unclear (listed as incorporated in 1900, but established as early as 1100AD)
You're off on Chicago. It was only founded as a city in 1837. Non-indiginous people did start to settle in what later became the city of Chicago in the decades before then, like Jean Baptiste Point du Sable.

Although if you're talking about the first year the site of ___ city got its first non-indiginous settler, that is a good question. The site of Chicago had indigenous people living there I suspect, even before the 1770s I bet.

Looks like Las Vegas was 1855, according to this article: https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/americanexp...0Los%20Angeles.

One final edit, Boise, ID was 1863: https://accessgenealogy.com/delaware...t-of-idaho.htm

This will be an interesting thread to watch. I have more cities I will probably look up, later.

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Old 09-25-2023, 07:56 PM
 
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The 10 oldest cities in the United States:

1. St. Augustine, Florida (1565)
2. Jamestown, Virginia (1607)
3. Santa Fe, New Mexico (1607)
4. Hampton, Virginia (1610)
5. Kecoughtan, Virginia (1610)
6. Newport News, Virginia (1613)
7. Albany, New York (1614)
8. Jersey City, New Jersey (1617)
9. Plymouth, Massachusetts (1620)
10. Weymouth, Massachusetts (1622)

https://www.thoughtco.com/oldest-cit...states-4144705

Would be nice to see an entire list extrapolated down to about 100.
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Old 09-25-2023, 08:10 PM
 
Location: La Jolla
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Would be interesting to see which city has the most intact structures still standing from those settlement years.
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Old 09-25-2023, 08:33 PM
 
Location: Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
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Wilmington DE is 50 years older, courtesy of the Swedes, than the core of its metro, Philadelphia, a metro that has a number of older settlements than its core (another example, Burlington NJ).

Yeah, the Swedish lived all around the Delaware Valley decades earlier than William Penn's founding date. A few of the cabins that survived are considered some of the oldest buildings in the US: List of the oldest buildings in the United States
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Old 09-25-2023, 08:56 PM
 
Location: Odenton, MD
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Would be interesting to see which city has the most intact structures still standing from those settlement years.
In major city proper(s)? Their remaining pre-colonial buildings can be counted on your hands. All the Bos-Wash corridor's oldest buildings for example tend to max out at Federal Era architecture so <250 years old and any buildings older than that exist solely due to historic/religious significance. To find older structures you'd have to go into the country side.

Boston - James Blake House (c. 1661)

NYC - Wyckoff House (c. 1652)

Philly - Boelson Cottage (c. 1684)

Baltimore - Robert Long House (c. 1765)

DC - Old Stone House (c. 1765)
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Old 09-25-2023, 11:33 PM
 
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Richmond is such a uniquely historic city, of all the places I've been, only Boston as a large city really comes close to the ambiance of Rich. And yet, this board consistently pigeonholes the city to a 4-year window in the 1860s, that people in modern Richmond haven't cared about in years...

There's so much f'ing history in this city. Such a special, special place...
I've always been impressed by Richmond's architectural range and variety that truly attests to its historicity as a city. It's a shame it doesn't get the attention and recognition of its Southern coastal counterparts in that regard.
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Old 09-25-2023, 11:36 PM
 
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A lot of people are surprised when they find out that Birmingham was founded after the Civil War.
Yep, and on the flip side, a lot of people don't know Charlotte is as old as it is. Judging by the historic stock of both cities, you'd think Birmingham was the older city.
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Old 09-26-2023, 06:21 AM
 
Location: Ga, from Minneapolis
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Yep, and on the flip side, a lot of people don't know Charlotte is as old as it is. Judging by the historic stock of both cities, you'd think Birmingham was the older city.
A city that was larger by say 1900 is going to seem more historic than a city that didn't get large until decades later, even if the city is technically older.
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Old 09-26-2023, 08:11 AM
 
Location: Atlanta
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Yep, and on the flip side, a lot of people don't know Charlotte is as old as it is. Judging by the historic stock of both cities, you'd think Birmingham was the older city.
Or that it was the site of America's first gold rush!
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