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Old 11-15-2023, 09:07 PM
 
Location: Howard County, Maryland
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Don't feel bad. Growing Phoenix is almost always excluded, unless someone wants to complain about water.
Or the heat. Don't forget about people complaining about the heat in Phoenix. Though at least it's a dry heat.

 
Old 11-16-2023, 05:18 AM
 
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Interesting perspective and commentary.
Barron’s is a conservative business publication that is owned by the same company (News Corp) that owns other noted conservative news outlets (including The Wall Street Journal and Fox News) and that is owned by the conservative Murdoch family which is led by noted business conservative Republican super-booster Rupert Murdoch.

So one of the main motivations for publishing this type of article potentially may be to promote the continued relocation of major business interests from Democratic Party-dominated blue states (like California, New York, Illinois, New Jersey, etc.) to safely Republican-controlled states like Texas, Florida and Tennessee as a means of at least attempting to boost Republican political strength nationally.

The publishing of an article like this probably reflects a strong motivation and desire to promote the migration of voting power (in the form of Electoral College votes and congressional representation) from Democratic-dominated blue states with tax policies and regulatory climates that are at least perceived to be notably less-friendly to business interests to safety Republican-controlled red states (starting with large faster-growing GOP-dominated states with no state income tax in Texas, Florida and Tennessee) that are perceived to be notably much more friendly to business interests.

States like Georgia, Arizona and North Carolina (while continuing to be states with noticeably strong presences of Republicans and conservatives) have been very noticeably trending away from Republican and conservative dominance and at least towards Democratic parity in recent years.

While fast-growing GOP-controlled states like Texas and Tennessee seem to be safely under Republican control for the foreseeable future and a previously strongly purple-hued large GOP-controlled state like Florida appears to be trending noticeably more Republican-leaning with continued growth.



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Maybe, but that doesn’t explain Austin missing when it’s probably the gold standard for rapid growth now.
What probably may have kept a fast-growing city/metro like Austin off of this type of list is (whether rightly or wrongly) a seemingly widely held perception that Austin is a more expensive city to live in with a higher cost-of-living than the larger Texas metro regions of Houston and Dallas/Fort Worth.

Whether rightly or wrongly, there seems to be a strong perception by many that Austin is almost like a Texas version of Seattle.
 
Old 11-16-2023, 05:41 AM
 
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What probably may have kept a fast-growing city/metro like Austin off of this type of list is (whether rightly or wrongly) a seemingly widely held perception that Austin is a more expensive city to live in with a higher cost-of-living than the larger Texas metro regions of Houston and Dallas/Fort Worth.

Whether rightly or wrongly, there seems to be a strong perception by many that Austin is almost like a Texas version of Seattle.
I don't even think it's that regarding Austin. The media obsesses over narratives and it usually has little to do with the facts or numbers. The narrative around Austin now is that since companies (especially tech companies) are sending people back into the office a few times a week people are leaving and moving back to NYC, SF, etc. which I don't fully believe, the truth is probably somewhere in the middle.
 
Old 11-16-2023, 05:41 AM
 
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Barron’s is a conservative business publication that is owned by the same company (News Corp) that owns other noted conservative news outlets (including The Wall Street Journal and Fox News) and that is owned by the conservative Murdoch family which is led by noted business conservative Republican super-booster Rupert Murdoch.

So one of the main motivations for publishing this type of article potentially may be to promote the continued relocation of major business interests from Democratic Party-dominated blue states (like California, New York, Illinois, New Jersey, etc.) to safely Republican-controlled states like Texas, Florida and Tennessee as a means of at least attempting to boost Republican political strength nationally.

The publishing of an article like this probably reflects a strong motivation and desire to promote the migration of voting power (in the form of Electoral College votes and congressional representation) from Democratic-dominated blue states with tax policies and regulatory climates that are at least perceived to be notably less-friendly to business interests to safety Republican-controlled red states (starting with large faster-growing GOP-dominated states with no state income tax in Texas, Florida and Tennessee) that are perceived to be notably much more friendly to business interests.

States like Georgia, Arizona and North Carolina (while continuing to be states with noticeably strong presences of Republicans and conservatives) have been very noticeably trending away from Republican and conservative dominance and at least towards Democratic parity in recent years.

While fast-growing GOP-controlled states like Texas and Tennessee seem to be safely under Republican control for the foreseeable future and a previously strongly purple-hued large GOP-controlled state like Florida appears to be trending noticeably more Republican-leaning with continued growth.




What probably may have kept a fast-growing city/metro like Austin off of this type of list is (whether rightly or wrongly) a seemingly widely held perception that Austin is a more expensive city to live in with a higher cost-of-living than the larger Texas metro regions of Houston and Dallas/Fort Worth.

Whether rightly or wrongly, there seems to be a strong perception by many that Austin is almost like a Texas version of Seattle.

Good stuff and perspective. I like it.
 
Old 11-16-2023, 06:17 AM
 
Location: OC
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Originally Posted by Born 2 Roll View Post
Barron’s is a conservative business publication that is owned by the same company (News Corp) that owns other noted conservative news outlets (including The Wall Street Journal and Fox News) and that is owned by the conservative Murdoch family which is led by noted business conservative Republican super-booster Rupert Murdoch.

So one of the main motivations for publishing this type of article potentially may be to promote the continued relocation of major business interests from Democratic Party-dominated blue states (like California, New York, Illinois, New Jersey, etc.) to safely Republican-controlled states like Texas, Florida and Tennessee as a means of at least attempting to boost Republican political strength nationally.

The publishing of an article like this probably reflects a strong motivation and desire to promote the migration of voting power (in the form of Electoral College votes and congressional representation) from Democratic-dominated blue states with tax policies and regulatory climates that are at least perceived to be notably less-friendly to business interests to safety Republican-controlled red states (starting with large faster-growing GOP-dominated states with no state income tax in Texas, Florida and Tennessee) that are perceived to be notably much more friendly to business interests.

States like Georgia, Arizona and North Carolina (while continuing to be states with noticeably strong presences of Republicans and conservatives) have been very noticeably trending away from Republican and conservative dominance and at least towards Democratic parity in recent years.

While fast-growing GOP-controlled states like Texas and Tennessee seem to be safely under Republican control for the foreseeable future and a previously strongly purple-hued large GOP-controlled state like Florida appears to be trending noticeably more Republican-leaning with continued growth.




What probably may have kept a fast-growing city/metro like Austin off of this type of list is (whether rightly or wrongly) a seemingly widely held perception that Austin is a more expensive city to live in with a higher cost-of-living than the larger Texas metro regions of Houston and Dallas/Fort Worth.

Whether rightly or wrongly, there seems to be a strong perception by many that Austin is almost like a Texas version of Seattle.
It is the most expensive, liberal and tech centered city in Texas so the Seattle comparison isn’t bad
 
Old 11-16-2023, 06:20 AM
 
Location: Surprise, AZ
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Or the heat. Don't forget about people complaining about the heat in Phoenix. Though at least it's a dry heat.
Oh yeah, that too...
 
Old 11-16-2023, 06:33 AM
 
Location: TN/NC
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SV is part of the Sunbelt.
No one is grouping SV in with the typical Sunbelt.
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Originally Posted by Born 2 Roll View Post
Barron’s is a conservative business publication that is owned by the same company (News Corp) that owns other noted conservative news outlets (including The Wall Street Journal and Fox News) and that is owned by the conservative Murdoch family which is led by noted business conservative Republican super-booster Rupert Murdoch.

So one of the main motivations for publishing this type of article potentially may be to promote the continued relocation of major business interests from Democratic Party-dominated blue states (like California, New York, Illinois, New Jersey, etc.) to safely Republican-controlled states like Texas, Florida and Tennessee as a means of at least attempting to boost Republican political strength nationally.

The publishing of an article like this probably reflects a strong motivation and desire to promote the migration of voting power (in the form of Electoral College votes and congressional representation) from Democratic-dominated blue states with tax policies and regulatory climates that are at least perceived to be notably less-friendly to business interests to safety Republican-controlled red states (starting with large faster-growing GOP-dominated states with no state income tax in Texas, Florida and Tennessee) that are perceived to be notably much more friendly to business interests.

States like Georgia, Arizona and North Carolina (while continuing to be states with noticeably strong presences of Republicans and conservatives) have been very noticeably trending away from Republican and conservative dominance and at least towards Democratic parity in recent years.

While fast-growing GOP-controlled states like Texas and Tennessee seem to be safely under Republican control for the foreseeable future and a previously strongly purple-hued large GOP-controlled state like Florida appears to be trending noticeably more Republican-leaning with continued growth.
TX will likely go blue long before TN. TN is one of the reddest states, probably THE reddest of any state with at least one major city. AL, MS, etc., have no real major cities.

Also, it's important to draw a distinction between metro Nashville, which doesn't have a majority of the state's population, but does have a majority of its growth, vs. small town and rural Tennessee.

Knoxville has a good bit of growth, but the rest of the state is slowly growing, or basically stuck in neutral. It's not a vibrant place at all outside of Knoxville and Nashville. Memphis' struggles are well-documented.

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Old 11-16-2023, 06:53 AM
 
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No one is grouping SV in with the typical Sunbelt.
And you know this how?

Either way, it's still part of the Sunbelt in actuality.
 
Old 11-16-2023, 07:34 AM
 
Location: New York City
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Originally Posted by Born 2 Roll View Post
Barron’s is a conservative business publication that is owned by the same company (News Corp) that owns other noted conservative news outlets (including The Wall Street Journal and Fox News) and that is owned by the conservative Murdoch family which is led by noted business conservative Republican super-booster Rupert Murdoch.

So one of the main motivations for publishing this type of article potentially may be to promote the continued relocation of major business interests from Democratic Party-dominated blue states (like California, New York, Illinois, New Jersey, etc.) to safely Republican-controlled states like Texas, Florida and Tennessee as a means of at least attempting to boost Republican political strength nationally.

The publishing of an article like this probably reflects a strong motivation and desire to promote the migration of voting power (in the form of Electoral College votes and congressional representation) from Democratic-dominated blue states with tax policies and regulatory climates that are at least perceived to be notably less-friendly to business interests to safety Republican-controlled red states (starting with large faster-growing GOP-dominated states with no state income tax in Texas, Florida and Tennessee) that are perceived to be notably much more friendly to business interests.

States like Georgia, Arizona and North Carolina (while continuing to be states with noticeably strong presences of Republicans and conservatives) have been very noticeably trending away from Republican and conservative dominance and at least towards Democratic parity in recent years.

While fast-growing GOP-controlled states like Texas and Tennessee seem to be safely under Republican control for the foreseeable future and a previously strongly purple-hued large GOP-controlled state like Florida appears to be trending noticeably more Republican-leaning with continued growth.

What probably may have kept a fast-growing city/metro like Austin off of this type of list is (whether rightly or wrongly) a seemingly widely held perception that Austin is a more expensive city to live in with a higher cost-of-living than the larger Texas metro regions of Houston and Dallas/Fort Worth.

Whether rightly or wrongly, there seems to be a strong perception by many that Austin is almost like a Texas version of Seattle.
Great info! I was not aware this all connects to News Corp (but not surprised).

Ironic that News Corp and its entities largely operate out of New York City, yet their agenda is anti-NYC. Kinda sad actually... Why can't an organization promote its home base and Texas at the same time?...
 
Old 11-16-2023, 07:46 AM
 
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A guy named Scaramucci would only fit in NY/NJ so "HE" would feel like a fish out of water in any of the other 48 states.
A guy named Scaramucci from Long Island who went to Harvard nonetheless.
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