What is the other East Coast Asian mecca/area? Besides NY? (America, populations)
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If we're splitting up in subgroups, then I would say that lower Bergen County, New Jersey is the East Coast "mecca" for the Korean community and overall rivals that of the Los Angeles area. Palisades Park is probably the only majority Korean municipality in the US and that's immediately adjacent to a bunch of other municipalities that are plurality or have a large proportion of Koreans. It's probably why so many of the Korean chaebols have their US headquarters there like Samsung and LG. Korean-American grocery chain H Mart is also headquartered in Lyndhurst, Bergen County. Again though, it's odd to divide New Jersey out from NYC given the other ones are mostly metropolitan areas as there's a lot of back and forth among the different enclaves. For example, the original H Mart was actually in Woodside Queens before moving its HQ out to Bergen County.
The DC area one is sort of funny in that it's particularly tied up in the Unification Church and its offshoots though the NYC area ones have that as well.
If we're splitting up in subgroups, then I would say that lower Bergen County, New Jersey is the East Coast "mecca" for the Korean community and overall rivals that of the Los Angeles area. Palisades Park is probably the only majority Korean municipality in the US and that's immediately adjacent to a bunch of other municipalities that are plurality or have a large proportion of Koreans. It's probably why so many of the Korean chaebols have their US headquarters there like Samsung and LG. Korean-American grocery chain H Mart is also headquartered in Lyndhurst, Bergen County. Again though, it's odd to divide New Jersey out from NYC given the other ones are mostly metropolitan areas as there's a lot of back and forth among the different enclaves. For example, the original H Mart was actually in Woodside Queens before moving its HQ out to Bergen County.
The DC area one is sort of funny in that it's particularly tied up in the Unification Church and its offshoots though the NYC area ones have that as well.
Bonchon chicken too. Started in NYC but the first retail location was in Fort Lee. I used to go every now and then in the first couple of years they were in existence.
And yes, eastern Bergen county (east of the Hackensack river) has been the Asian mecca of the East coast going back to the 70's-80's.
I have no doubt that the Northern suburbs of Atlanta and Western/Southern Suburbs of Raleigh/RTP will soon give Northern NJ and Northern Virginia a run for their money in this category. Particularly for South Asian presence.
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I have no doubt that the Northern suburbs of Atlanta and Western/Southern Suburbs of Raleigh/RTP will soon give Northern NJ and Northern Virginia a run for their money in this category. Particularly for South Asian presence.
I honestly don't think so at all simply because the rate of growth of Asian residents in those areas doesn't come close to Northern NJ.
I honestly don't think so at all simply because the rate of growth of Asian residents in those areas doesn't come close to Northern NJ.
idk, the growth rate is higher in RDU area and ATL, over N/CNJ now.
Also, I went to Rutgers (iykyk lol) and lived near Edison and now live near Little India in JC... a lot of younger Indian Americans and South Asians do not see NJ as their last stop. Its a stop. But they want to get the education and build the equity and move somewhere cleaner, and less expensive. A la, Raleigh, Charlotte, Atlanta, Orlando, etc...
Only very few youngins plan to stay in NJ long long term. And as we saw from 2010-2020, the growth rate is accelerating down in aforementioned metropolitan areas, while NJ starts to slow.
Of course there will be a huge South Asian presence (ESPECIALLY in Central Jersey), but a lot will shed to the southern metropolitan areas.
idk, the growth rate is higher in RDU area and ATL, over N/CNJ now.
Also, I went to Rutgers (iykyk lol) and lived near Edison and now live near Little India in JC... a lot of younger Indian Americans and South Asians do not see NJ as their last stop. Its a stop. But they want to get the education and build the equity and move somewhere cleaner, and less expensive. A la, Raleigh, Charlotte, Atlanta, Orlando, etc...
Only very few youngins plan to stay in NJ long long term. And as we saw from 2010-2020, the growth rate is accelerating down in aforementioned metropolitan areas, while NJ starts to slow.
Of course there will be a huge South Asian presence (ESPECIALLY in Central Jersey), but a lot will shed to the southern metropolitan areas.
I run the "deeds recorded" report for Wake County every morning to see what sales happened the previous day and get a better idea of comps/sales trends as the MLS is currently a poop-show and doesn't contain all sales; but the Registrar of Deeds does.
If you sort by "grantee" (the seller); and look at deeds recorded where the grantee is a builder (ie...new construction sales)...most days generally 80-90% of grantors (the buyers) are South Asian. The overwhelming majority of new home construction sales in Wake ( at 1.2 million now the most populous county in NC and the Southeast outside of Florida) are to South Asian buyers and yes most are actually moving from other areas of the US (mostly Silicon Valley, Northern Virginia, and NJ in my anecdotal observations)
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We can put numbers to this. These are how each CSA grew between 2012-2022 by region of Asia. Only those over 10,000 listed. This is foreign born growth only.
East Asia Growth (China, Taiwan, Japan, Korea)
San Jose/San Francisco/Stockton/Modesto: 111,635
New York City/Bridgeport/Poughkeepsie: 76,789
Los Angeles/Riverside/San Bernardino: 74,993
Seattle/Tacoma/Olympia: 49,761
Boston/Worcester/Providence: 41,988
Houston: 24,934
Dallas/Fort Worth: 21,625
Philadelphia/Reading: 20,795
Washington DC/Baltimore: 19,714
Sacramento/Roseville: 19,189
Atlanta/Athens: 17,264
Portland/Salem: 13,488
San Diego: 11,967
Chicago: 10,398
Detroit/Ann Arbor: 10,286
South Central Asia Growth (India, Pakistan, Sri Lanka, Bangladesh, Nepal, Afghanistan)
San Jose/San Francisco/Stockton/Modesto: 168,007
New York City/Bridgeport/Poughkeepsie: 160,744
Dallas/Fort Worth: 112,487
Washington DC/Baltimore: 77,548
Seattle/Tacoma/Olympia: 70,558
Atlanta/Athens: 54,771
Houston: 52,199
Boston/Worcester/Providence: 47,361
Chicago: 45,284
Philadelphia/Reading: 44,940
Los Angeles/Riverside/San Bernardino: 34,965
Sacramento/Roseville: 34,251
Detroit/Ann Arbor: 33,685
Austin/Marble Falls: 30,625
Raleigh/Durham: 26,540
Columbus/Zanesville: 24,090
Charlotte: 23,512
Phoenix: 19,831
Tampa: 14,013
Portland/Salem: 13,896
San Diego: 13,163
Minneapolis/St. Paul/WI: 13,025
Denver/Greeley: 12,390
Miami/Fort Lauderdale/Port St. Lucie: 11,292
San Antonio/Pearsall: 10,624
Southeast Asia Growth (Philippines, Thailand, Vietnam, Cambodia, Laos, Myanmar, Malaysia, Singapore, Indonesia)
Houston: 31,024
Seattle/Tacoma/Olympia: 26,045
Dallas/Fort Worth: 24,174
Las Vegas: 23,831
Atlanta/Athens: 21,622
Chicago: 16,490
Los Angeles/Riverside/San Bernardino: 12,341
Minneapolis/St. Paul/WI: 11,711
Orlando/Lakeland/Deltona: 11,407
San Jose/San Francisco/Stockton/Modesto: 10,963
Sacramento/Roseville: 10,403
Phoenix: 10,308
West Asia Growth (the Arabian Peninsula, the Levant Countries, Iran, Azerbaijan, Georgia, and Armenia)
Detroit/Ann Arbor: 34,943
New York City/Bridgeport/Poughkeepsie: 23,441
Houston: 21,198
Los Angeles/Riverside/San Bernardino: 20,610
Washington DC/Baltimore: 18,814
Dallas/Fort Worth: 15,024
San Jose/San Francisco/Stockton/Modesto: 13,093
We can put numbers to this. These are how each CSA grew between 2012-2022 by region of Asia. Only those over 10,000 listed. This is foreign born growth only.
East Asia Growth (China, Taiwan, Japan, Korea)
San Jose/San Francisco/Stockton/Modesto: 111,635
New York City/Bridgeport/Poughkeepsie: 76,789
Los Angeles/Riverside/San Bernardino: 74,993
Seattle/Tacoma/Olympia: 49,761
Boston/Worcester/Providence: 41,988
Houston: 24,934
Dallas/Fort Worth: 21,625
Philadelphia/Reading: 20,795
Washington DC/Baltimore: 19,714
Sacramento/Roseville: 19,189
Atlanta/Athens: 17,264
Portland/Salem: 13,488
San Diego: 11,967
Chicago: 10,398
Detroit/Ann Arbor: 10,286
South Central Asia Growth (India, Pakistan, Sri Lanka, Bangladesh, Nepal, Afghanistan)
San Jose/San Francisco/Stockton/Modesto: 168,007
New York City/Bridgeport/Poughkeepsie: 160,744
Dallas/Fort Worth: 112,487
Washington DC/Baltimore: 77,548
Seattle/Tacoma/Olympia: 70,558
Atlanta/Athens: 54,771
Houston: 52,199
Boston/Worcester/Providence: 47,361
Chicago: 45,284
Philadelphia/Reading: 44,940
Los Angeles/Riverside/San Bernardino: 34,965
Sacramento/Roseville: 34,251
Detroit/Ann Arbor: 33,685
Austin/Marble Falls: 30,625
Raleigh/Durham: 26,540
Columbus/Zanesville: 24,090
Charlotte: 23,512
Phoenix: 19,831
Tampa: 14,013
Portland/Salem: 13,896
San Diego: 13,163
Minneapolis/St. Paul/WI: 13,025
Denver/Greeley: 12,390
Miami/Fort Lauderdale/Port St. Lucie: 11,292
San Antonio/Pearsall: 10,624
Southeast Asia Growth (Philippines, Thailand, Vietnam, Cambodia, Laos, Myanmar, Malaysia, Singapore, Indonesia)
Houston: 31,024
Seattle/Tacoma/Olympia: 26,045
Dallas/Fort Worth: 24,174
Las Vegas: 23,831
Atlanta/Athens: 21,622
Chicago: 16,490
Los Angeles/Riverside/San Bernardino: 12,341
Minneapolis/St. Paul/WI: 11,711
Orlando/Lakeland/Deltona: 11,407
San Jose/San Francisco/Stockton/Modesto: 10,963
Sacramento/Roseville: 10,403
Phoenix: 10,308
West Asia Growth (the Arabian Peninsula, the Levant Countries, Iran, Azerbaijan, Georgia, and Armenia)
Detroit/Ann Arbor: 34,943
New York City/Bridgeport/Poughkeepsie: 23,441
Houston: 21,198
Los Angeles/Riverside/San Bernardino: 20,610
Washington DC/Baltimore: 18,814
Dallas/Fort Worth: 15,024
San Jose/San Francisco/Stockton/Modesto: 13,093
So, if somebody is South Asian and born in the US it wouldn't count. Raleigh/Charlotte/Atlanta aren't large portals of entry. There isn't that much of established communities there. It's where you go after.
Can't really put numbers on this outside the decennial census.
A lot of children of immigrants are leaving C/NNJ for RDU CLT ATL...
I run the "deeds recorded" report for Wake County every morning to see what sales happened the previous day and get a better idea of comps/sales trends as the MLS is currently a poop-show and doesn't contain all sales; but the Registrar of Deeds does.
If you sort by "grantee" (the seller); and look at deeds recorded where the grantee is a builder (ie...new construction sales)...most days generally 80-90% of grantors (the buyers) are South Asian. The overwhelming majority of new home construction sales in Wake ( at 1.2 million now the most populous county in NC and the Southeast outside of Florida) are to South Asian buyers and yes most are actually moving from other areas of the US (mostly Silicon Valley, Northern Virginia, and NJ in my anecdotal observations)
Exactly my experience. I worked for State Farm in 2021 and most new home buyers in Wake/Durham counties were South Asian descent.
I want to say 50-60% of homes.. and about 80% of homes over $500k, at the time, were to South Asian home buyers.
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