Pittsburgh, Vs. Cincinnati, Vs. Louisville (population, ranking, Chicago, schools)

[PeterRabbit]

2 - Cincinnati
6 - Louisville
7 - Pittsburgh

[censusdata]

What they have in common: each is home to a public urban university that is known for making incredible medical innovations - all three are also in the Big East conference

Pitt - discovery of pinnicilian, does a large percent of all organ transplants in the US
U of Cin - first ambulance and ER in the world
U of Lou - discovery of first cervical cancer vaccine (Gardasil), first hand transplant

How they differ:

I have only been through Pittsburgh on the interstate. It has a great skyline, it is also a very hard city to navigate. Easily has the worst economy of the three, even the surrounding suburban counties are losing population.

I lived across from Cincinnati as a young child and have family in the metro area. Cincy has a very good skyline and a great downtown - very urban with most historic buildings still standing, no large gaps or surface level parking lots. Most areas outside downtown are declining. Over the Rhine is incredible architecturally, it should be Greenich Village of the Midwest, not one of America's most notorious ghettos

I have lived in Louisville on and off for 6 years, including 4 attending U of Lou. Louisville is a city of extreme good and bads. Frankfort Ave and Bardstown Rd are as funky and hip as any urban streets in America. West Louisville is as dangerous and economically depressed as any area in America. Unfortatly Louisville bulldozed most historic buildings in Downtown, even today probably half of Downtown is surface level parking lots. Downtown's West Main's Museum Row and 4th Street are gems

[sweetclimber]

Originally Posted by adam.g.harpool

Three frigid, declining Rust Belt cities, yay :-)

Let's see...I live in Pittsburgh currently and have not become a huge fan of the place even though there are lots of good things to say about the area. Whether deserved or not, Cincinnati has a reputation of being somewhat backwards politically and a tad racist. I've visited there before and wasn't particularly impressed. Louisville is a nicely laid out, progressive city and probably has the best economy out of all three, but it's attached to Kentucky.

So I would say...Pittsburgh, if I had to choose from that group. But really "none of the above!"

I would choose any of those cities over any place in Florida hands down.

But since the OP wants to know which, I would go Pitt #1, Louisville a close #2 and Cincy a close #3. I like all 3 alot from my visits to all 3

[ainulinale]

Originally Posted by censusdata

What they have in common: each is home to a public urban university that is known for making incredible medical innovations - all three are also in the Big East conference

Pitt - discovery of pinnicilian, does a large percent of all organ transplants in the US
U of Cin - first ambulance and ER in the world
U of Lou - discovery of first cervical cancer vaccine (Gardasil), first hand transplant

I'm pretty sure U of Cincinnati and U of Louisville are incomparable to University of Pittsburgh Medical.

Originally Posted by censusdata

How they differ:

I have only been through Pittsburgh on the interstate. It has a great skyline, it is also a very hard city to navigate. Easily has the worst economy of the three, even the surrounding suburban counties are losing population.

Our economy is not great, but I don't think it is easily the worst of the three...especially since it is the biggest. The idea that our economy is in shambles is a total myth that people across the country mistakenly believe. The reason for our population decline has nothing to do with "people leaving in droves" because of the horrific job situation. In the 1980s Pittsburgh lost 150,000 steel jobs. Today, Pittsburgh has one of the highest retention rates of its young people of any major city. However, since we lost so many young people in the 80s (and therefore their children), we have more people dying than being born--a phenomenon that will soon be corrected.

[Peter1948]

Originally Posted by ainulinale

I'm pretty sure U of Cincinnati and U of Louisville are incomparable to University of Pittsburgh Medical.



Our economy is not great, but I don't think it is easily the worst of the three...especially since it is the biggest. The idea that our economy is in shambles is a total myth that people across the country mistakenly believe. The reason for our population decline has nothing to do with "people leaving in droves" because of the horrific job situation. In the 1980s Pittsburgh lost 150,000 steel jobs. Today, Pittsburgh has one of the highest retention rates of its young people of any major city. However, since we lost so many young people in the 80s (and therefore their children), we have more people dying than being born--a phenomenon that will soon be corrected.

Pittsburgh does have a declining city, MSA, and CSA population, however. This is clear population based evidence that people are moving out of the region. That said, although I live in Louisville, I would relocate to Pitt for a good job offer. Pitt offers a lot of what I like about Louisvillle, and I definitely see the similarities between Louisville, Cincinnati, and Pitt. All three are sorely underated and sadly most Americans would rather live in sprawlbelt towns like Oklahoma City or Charlotte. It is very sad but true, but then again, most Americans would also choose Olive Garden over an authentic local Italian restaurant when visiting a new city. NOT I SAID THE FLY

[missymomof3]

Originally Posted by stx12499

Pittsburgh does have a declining city, MSA, and CSA population, however. This is clear population based evidence that people are moving out of the region. That said, although I live in Louisville, I would relocate to Pitt for a good job offer. Pitt offers a lot of what I like about Louisvillle, and I definitely see the similarities between Louisville, Cincinnati, and Pitt. All three are sorely underated and sadly most Americans would rather live in sprawlbelt towns like Oklahoma City or Charlotte. It is very sad but true, but then again, most Americans would also choose Olive Garden over an authentic local Italian restaurant when visiting a new city. NOT I SAID THE FLY

I am one of those who love locally owned places more than chains, but sometimes you just can't find the locally owned ones

[censusdata]

Originally Posted by ainulinale

I'm pretty sure U of Cincinnati and U of Louisville are incomparable to University of Pittsburgh Medical.

U of Pitt does have a higher NIH funding and better quality of incoming students, but U of L is defiantly on par with Pitt in terms of major research discoveries. Pitt is ranked 26th among all public schools while U of L is a 3rd tier. The cervical cancer vaccine developed at U of L will save as many lives as the polio vaccine has that Pitt developed. U of L has also done the world's first hand transplant, first wireless artificial heart transplant, developed the pap smear, and one of the first ER's and ambulances.


Pittsburgh has one of the best Downtown areas in the nation, but the suburban areas are very run down and stagnant economically. Cincinnati has a very nice downtown and great architecture, but its yuppie areas are really lacking in restaurants and shops. I find Louisville's downtown very charming in places but really lacking in others, it does have two of the best urban restaurant and shopping corridors I've ever been too (Bardstown Rd and Frankfort Ave). A lot of people I known that travel all around the US say Louisville has one of the best restaurant scenes of any metro under 4 million

[ainulinale]

Originally Posted by stx12499

Pittsburgh does have a declining city, MSA, and CSA population, however. This is clear population based evidence that people are moving out of the region.

Actually, no (in case you didn't read my last post). I happen to know that the person who made this thread is an urban planner; many others have come to the same conclusion. Pittsburgh's population decline is primarily due to low birth rates and high death rates.

http://74.125.45.132/search?q=cache:...ient=firefox-a

[ainulinale]

Originally Posted by censusdata

U of Pitt does have a higher NIH funding and better quality of incoming students, but U of L is defiantly on par with Pitt in terms of major research discoveries.

Major research discoveries definitely don't define how good a particular medical schools is. Anyway, Pitt is ranked 14th in the nation in terms of medical research...I don't even see Louisville on here though (not that rankings mean everything, but I do think they're good generalizations)...

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[InLondon]

Louisville of the three is the nicest.