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View Poll Results: North Jersey or Long Island
North Jersey 208 62.28%
Long Island 126 37.72%
Voters: 334. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 12-16-2009, 06:32 AM
 
Location: Historic Downtown Jersey City
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Nice try but no, making fun of New Joisey is a New York tradition. New York City never liked New Jersey always thinking of the state as less advanced, less cultured. Let's be honest there are no great nationally renowned cultural institutions or events in the great state of New Jersey.
The only reason New Jersey is thriving and affluent is because of its proximity to New York City. The state with Trenton, the capital worthy of Idaho. No baseball nor footbal team. Sometimes it is hard to believe how the perspective changes once you cross Hudson rivier and the thin layer of surrounding urbanity... You live in New Jersey, which exit?




So you were in fact comparing the entire state of NJ to just two counties in LI? Are you for real?
Yes, you are correct...city dwellers have always scoffed suburban dwellers for not being cultured, etc (and vice versa, FWIW). The flaw in your argument is that NYC dwellers scoff NJ residents *and* Long Island residents (which is, remember, what this poll/thread is about). Throw in Westchester and Connecticut for good measure.

It's the age-old city mouse versus the country mouse...

If it helps dissipate your bizarre superiority complex...suburbanites often view city dwellers as uncivilized. Two sides of the coin, always...but I don't expect you to understand that.

Regarding culture, which seems to be your main anti-NJ hangup...if you don't see that NJ has more than Long Island...you are uninformed and just not looking. Luckily you have many informed posters on this site who are telling you where some of these cultural activities are. You have yet to point out some in Long Island, so until you do...it looks like NJ is winning this one.

I do encourage you to name some LI cultural institutions...at least it'd make the thread more interesting, instead of a lot of complete ignorance being thrown around.
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Old 12-16-2009, 11:38 AM
 
Location: Historic Downtown Jersey City
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Also, there are very few people on Long Island who socialize in the city. In for work, and then out at 5:00. I've got about 50-60 family members living in Long Island, Nassau County, ranging from teenagers to age 85. None of them go into the city more than once or twice a YEAR. It's too much of a hassle for them.

Compare that to towns such as Hoboken or Jersey City, which sit opposite the Hudson from Manhattan and have 24 hour access via Path train.

Long Island is NYC's back yard? Laughable. Actually, North Jersey is NYC's back yard...it's 3/4 of a mile away across the Hudson, as opposed to having to cross through Queens to get to anywhere you'd actually want to visit in NYC.
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Old 12-16-2009, 12:12 PM
 
Location: THE THRONE aka-New York City
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Also, there are very few people on Long Island who socialize in the city. In for work, and then out at 5:00. I've got about 50-60 family members living in Long Island, Nassau County, ranging from teenagers to age 85. None of them go into the city more than once or twice a YEAR. It's too much of a hassle for them.

Compare that to towns such as Hoboken or Jersey City, which sit opposite the Hudson from Manhattan and have 24 hour access via Path train.

Long Island is NYC's back yard? Laughable. Actually, North Jersey is NYC's back yard...it's 3/4 of a mile away across the Hudson, as opposed to having to cross through Queens to get to anywhere you'd actually want to visit in NYC.
Actually long island would serve as a backyard for new york city. North new jersey's relationship with new york is very one sided. North jersey is not nys backyard just cuz jersians come to new york for work. It doesnt work like that.

And again jc's so called proximity to manhattan doesnt mean anything. Theres more in queens that a new yorker would want to visit, than anything in JC
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Old 12-16-2009, 12:41 PM
 
Location: Historic Downtown Jersey City
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Actually long island would serve as a backyard for new york city. North new jersey's relationship with new york is very one sided. North jersey is not nys backyard just cuz jersians come to new york for work. It doesnt work like that.

And again jc's so called proximity to manhattan doesnt mean anything. Theres more in queens that a new yorker would want to visit, than anything in JC
Well, I'd disagree. Strongly. But...this poll does not involve Queens.
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Old 12-16-2009, 02:44 PM
 
Location: St Paul, MN - NJ's Gold Coast
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North Jersey consist of the following counties.

Bergen County- 247 sqmi
Essex County- 130 sqmi
Hudson County- 62 sqmi
Morris County- 481 sqmi
Passaic County- 197 sqmi
Sussex County- 536 sqmi
Union County- 105 sqmi
Warren County- 363 sqmi

Total sqmi- 2121

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Long Island

Nassau County- 453 sqmi
Suffolk county- 2,373 sqmi (though a lot of it water)

Total sqmi- 2,826




Long Island, despite it' only 2 counties, still has more square mileage than that of North Jersey, so the comparison is in fact fair.... sheesh, and someone wanted to compare LI to Little ol Hudson County and Bergen County
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Old 12-16-2009, 03:35 PM
 
Location: New York
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Actually long island would serve as a backyard for new york city. North new jersey's relationship with new york is very one sided. North jersey is not nys backyard just cuz jersians come to new york for work. It doesnt work like that.

And again jc's so called proximity to manhattan doesnt mean anything. Theres more in queens that a new yorker would want to visit, than anything in JC
Such as?
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Old 12-16-2009, 04:02 PM
 
Location: St Paul, MN - NJ's Gold Coast
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And again jc's so called proximity to manhattan doesnt mean anything. Theres more in queens that a new yorker would want to visit, than anything in JC

Jersey City has Liberty state Park which includes ferry's to both Ellis and Liberty island. Other things the city has to offer is it's well known dining spots along the Hudson which offers some of the best views of lower Manhattan.
Jersey city also has historical parks where people can walk around and view the many historical monuments and art pieces throughout.

I'm not trying to cut you down or anything, because I'm aware of the little knowledge a lot of people have towards Jersey City. It's one of those places that take a while to get some recognition.
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Old 12-16-2009, 04:02 PM
 
Location: On the Great South Bay
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North Jersey consist of the following counties.

Bergen County- 247 sqmi
Essex County- 130 sqmi
Hudson County- 62 sqmi
Morris County- 481 sqmi
Passaic County- 197 sqmi
Sussex County- 536 sqmi
Union County- 105 sqmi
Warren County- 363 sqmi

Total sqmi- 2121

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Long Island

Nassau County- 453 sqmi
Suffolk county- 2,373 sqmi (though a lot of it water)

Total sqmi- 2,826




Long Island, despite it' only 2 counties, still has more square mileage than that of North Jersey, so the comparison is in fact fair.... sheesh, and someone wanted to compare LI to Little ol Hudson County and Bergen County
The combined land area of Nassau and Suffolk is 1199 square miles not 2,826.
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Old 12-16-2009, 04:10 PM
 
Location: On the Great South Bay
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Also, there are very few people on Long Island who socialize in the city. In for work, and then out at 5:00. I've got about 50-60 family members living in Long Island, Nassau County, ranging from teenagers to age 85. None of them go into the city more than once or twice a YEAR. It's too much of a hassle for them.

Compare that to towns such as Hoboken or Jersey City, which sit opposite the Hudson from Manhattan and have 24 hour access via Path train.

Long Island is NYC's back yard? Laughable. Actually, North Jersey is NYC's back yard...it's 3/4 of a mile away across the Hudson, as opposed to having to cross through Queens to get to anywhere you'd actually want to visit in NYC.
First off you are talking about the people YOU know. There are millions of people that I am sure you do not know. How do you know where they socialize?

Second, that is true about Hudson County being a mile from Manhattan. But is it true about all of Northern New Jersey? Do you think that everyone in New Jersey, or ANY suburban area for that matter, has to go to Manhattan to doing their socializing?

And if you feel the need to go to Manhattan to have a social life, what does that say about Jersey City?
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Old 12-16-2009, 04:16 PM
 
Location: St Paul, MN - NJ's Gold Coast
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The combined land area of Nassau and Suffolk is 1199 square miles not 2,826.
I did mention that Suffolk counties square mileage included a lot of water. (It's actually mostly water)

But NNJ land square mileage is still only 2043 excluding water.

So NJ has 844 square miles of land over LI... I guess we can exclude Warren county to make it a more fair comparison... I mean Sussex county and Morris Counties are pretty much just as similar to extremely rural Warren County anyway.
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